AV 1.12 is my least favorite. I’ll give it a try but it’s not a good version. Also, theatrical Star Wars: A New Hope is best. ![:wink:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")
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or, made a deal with streamers…exclusivity for hype…testing be dam …ed. $$$$ for both parties.
The two games I’ve been in so far were just fun.
We were fighting each other for GY’s and there were no NPC’s messing things up and no zerg at all. Just pure pvp with no quarter given.
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Its ok. Ive got enough stock in the company that at the next board meeting ill bring up the fact you have streamers getting friends, family or people they know into closed beta. These streamers have killed the hype of classic and have driven more back to playing on private servers. Youve got streamers like swifty that are clueless and need addons to wipe their butts for them.
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Isn’t alterac going to be a full rush like retail when people will be 60 with better gear ?
Drek or vandar have no def if towers aren’t captured and they are getting killed pretty easily by level 58 with crappy gear.
Probably gonna be like this… everytime :
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AV only???
Boring …
See you on Monday
A couple things after playing av all day on beta :
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The gear templates are atrocious… But everyone has terrible gear so it’s fair I guess?
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None of the 5 games I played (3 to completion) ended quickly. That being said player incompetence was the reason in every single case. Most typically with the horde pushing stormpike gy directly into the choke point on the main road, AND NEVER LISTENING TO DIRECTIONS TO RIDE AROUND (either under the bridge to the left or up and around the high road to the right)… Good lord, how can people still be this consistently stupid 14 years later.
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Part of the issue was that being under leveled (58 in a 60 bg) that killing the boss was very difficult, making it easier to defend.
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On that topic, the 4 adds near the boss weren’t despawning with their towers going down. Don’t at all remember if that’s authentic. Only success vs them was pulling them out of vann’s room (vann himself will reset) and gy zerging them down one at a time. And then trying to kill the boss.
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We tried summoning the elemental raid boss and it bugged out on us and wouldn’t summon.
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Not being able to cast - dismount yourself was incredibly annoying… Hadn’t gotten my mount on beta (hit 39 today before av server launched)… You have to physically dismount first. Just one of those things you forget about.
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Minor change potentially needed… You can’t type in /bg… In vanilla you had to type in /ra (/raid) to talk to your instance… Authentic but annoying that both don’t work. Bad habit to break on my part from playing live.
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I couldn’t remember, and no one in any games knew either, but what do the mines do, in vanilla? They where still cappable, but with no reinforcements I don’t remember what their actual role was.
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Final thought is that… 1.12 av is kind of the worst of all worlds… The npcs where speed bumps rather than factors… The games aren’t fast like retail, but it’s just players running into each other over and over via stupidity. Without the npc tools to turn the tide in fights… It depends entirely on ineptitude of one or both teams to stall out for any amount of time. An organized group could (and did in one of my games) absolutely steam roll. I had some fun, but I’m not sure I’d ever want to spend a single second longer in that place than I’m going to be forced to, for the rep rewards (and since I’m going to be doing it on 3 characters… I’m already going to see it way more than I want)
Now regarding classes just minor thoughts
1 dark pact (warlock) really sucks at 58 and with no spell power… Mashing that thing like a mad man.
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beyond that warlock was exactly what I knew it’d be, hilariously strong. And some poor rogue got himself 100-0d by my dots within the duration of a single fear.
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Second character chosen was a rogue. I feel like I was way out of practice as a vanilla dagger rogue and played it just horribly… That said, no one has pvp trinkets so I still ended up going like 9-2 (did much less pvp and much more tower ninja attempting). Ended up being much more frustrating than expected and even squishier than expected…
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Next I made an ele shaman and discovered that I really don’t get ele.
5 enhance was my final game and way way more fun than I expected it to be. I was starting to doubt whether I’d end up making one as an alt… And now I basically have to. I was overall awful and died almoat as much as I killed… But just meme detonating people was just as fun those popular videos show. If they weren’t utter trash in pve (and I didn’t love warlock) I’d even consider it for a potential main.
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To collect resources to summon the ground assault. (Reavers)
In Classic, when an enemy destroyed your tower, it added a warmaster to your enemy boss. Towers removed a ‘friendly’ war master (eg. destroying Stonehearth Bunker as Horde would remove the Stonehearth Marshal from Vanndar, but add a Stonehearth Warmaster to Drek’Thar).
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Entirely different, no. Significantly different, absolutely.
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nope
I was just in there an hour ago, it is very different.
Go on…
Spawn point
NPC set up
Win conditions
Mines serve a completely different function
The map isn’t even the same
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Which are less of a change from 1.12 compared to 1.7:
- Shredder quest
- Korrak
- Korrak in his cave rather than the GY
- Entire east and west side of center map
- Syndicate
- Wildpaw Gnolls
- Minefields
- Quest for Korrak
- Quests for enemy body parts
- NPCs 15-30% stronger, “difficulty” not scaled down
- All guard units which most were removed in 1.11
- Creatures that remain had their original unnerfed hitpoints
- No Marks of Honor
So yeah, when comparing what we have been asking for for almost 15 years to what is currently in live, it is disingenuous to claim that live is “significantly” and “very” different from v1.12.
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I honestly think you are NOT trolling here… beta is not long by ANY definition of the word. The only difference is you want to play and others who are stream it.
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No, it’s the truth, no matter how much you cry about it.
It’s the AV we are getting, get used to it.
As someone who didn’t play vanilla when it was live, would love to have old AV to see how it was before 1.12
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When was the last time a retail AV summoned the tree boss???
Then why are you in here fighting with those trying to get the early iteration of AV?
About a month ago I was in one where we summoned the ice elemental on horde side.