WoW Classic 20th Anniversary Realms Information -- Updated Nov. 18

Its not hyperbole. After the honor and BG patches it all went downhill pretty fast.

Please consider these additional changes:

  1. Dual spec
  2. Remove buff/debuff limits on PvE and PvP realms in addition to Hardcore
  3. Increase nameplate visibility range to 41 yards
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Those are two separate things.

Buying gear with gold does not inherently mean carried.

You just want to believe gdkps are either pure buyers and pure carries when in reality it’s mostly people who are geared for the tier but are missing better items in their slots.

Gdkps are literally just raids that bid on loot instead of rolling it out.

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I think pretty much everyone in this thread praising the banning of GDKP or going on about how bad it is have actually no idea what they’re taking about. I’d wager none of them have ever tried GDKP and they have zero understanding of the benefits. They’re just regurgitating the “Oh yay RTM will be defeated” tauren :poop: they heard from their uncle’s cousin’s friend. Many are convinced that everyone who participates in GDKP also buys gold. It’s sad, really.

In my experience with GDKP people don’t get carried. Performance is comparable and quite often better in a GDKP. And there is no community erosion. You still make friends and run into familiar faces just as you would with other loot systems. Entire guilds use GDKP. Where is this community erosion?

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It’s obnoxious really. They watch some clip of some streamer having a huge bid on an item, or they remember the singular gressil that went for over 200k or they remember the Ulduar run where two people bid millions for a ring.

Those are literally pieces of gold floating in a river of rocks. Thats the exception, not the rule, but these people don’t care.

It’s also weird how most people that I can log check that hate gdkps also generally suck at the game to begin with. I’m a firm believer that the vast majority of anti-gdkp players are bads who know they can’t do content without good players, but instead of refusing to get good themselves, they want to cull the good players groups and try to force us back into their runs.

Notice how this time Blizzard DID NOT call us gold buyers? That’s crazy huh. It’s almost like it was never about that, but instead RMT is just used as a shield against gdkps because some clowns go rmt for it, but then they won’t discuss people rmt’ing as a whole, and how the AH is a major player in the acquisition, distribution, and the ONLY WAY to cross faction gold. Nope, won’t talk about that because they use the AH.

Disingenuous ignorant clowns.

Their trash can semi-hardcore MS>OS +1 guilds die because the good players get tired of wiping on trash. It’s going to happen anyways with and without gdkps, just now instead of their smart bads going to a gdkp atleast, now they’re all stuck raid logging BWL trash.

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I love how the only thing people are talking about out of this entire post is the BEST thing that Blizzard has done in the last decade is now being added to fresh era prog servers. The continued ban on GDKP.

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Atleast you’re not screaming about feral needing buffs right now, so that’s progress atleast.

Nope. Killed SOD. I doubt P2 is going to have even half of the players it starts with.

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Nothing to worry about. There won’t be a lot ppl playing it.

Lol it didnt kill SoD the content drought unbalanced class changes killed SoD

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Sure man, cope more.

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is there anyway to push the phases our further?

The player base has been asking for Fresh… this feels more like a season version of era with faster paced phases. A 2 year fresh into a 2 year TBC with a reset would be more inline with what people have been asking for.

Additionally, lets say I only wanted to play the vanilla stage, once TBC is scheduled to launch will we be allowed to xfer our “vanilla” chars back to whitemane like SOM?

Would really like some extremely light tweaks just to make bad specs more tolerable, like just mana efficiency tweaks for vanilla.

In TBC I’d rly like critting and maybe hasted DoT’s for Afflic/Shadow, they trail so far behind, this would be such a huge help for them. Shadow literally does 40% the total dmg that the best few specs do, there’s no way crit/haste DoT’s would be OP in PVE, it would just considerably close the gap between Shadow/Affliction and every other spec. Can disable it on pvp targets.

I will never understand the unwillingness to just MERGE SERVERS when they die. “linking” server isn’t the answer.

Retail has damn near 100 completely dead servers.
Current HC server, even with only 2, one of them is dead.

Just start merging and stop with this stupid approach, it makes no sense.

Seeing so many servers dead when you log in is such a bad look.

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Feedback here. I posted it separately too.

Fresh Vanilla:

  • Bad timing: I understand the urge to match it with the 20th anniversary, but sometimes you don’t get the perfect setup. Launching fresh while sod is in progress will only divide the community.
  • Too much vanilla: too much vanilla can hurt the recipe. We had 2 different iterations of hardcore followed by SoD in vanilla. It was time to mix it up with a new flavor like TBC. 2026 feels like a long time from now.

Fresh Hardcore Vanilla:

  • what’s the point of freeh HC? The deads have quit the game n the livings don’t wanna start the same thing over. Why would they want to? Bad ideas.
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People want a new economy.
Bank alts kind of ruin HC after a while.

I personally don’t care that much, but I understand those who do.

I can’t imagine there are many livings at lvl 60 with raid epics that want to start fresh HC because of economy etc…

Will there be name reservation timeframes prior to launch?

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You’re right.
It’s the people who never made it there who feels forever unable to get there with people who funneled everything to (bank) alts for a year with no chance of dying.

A full server with all self found, no bank/mail transfers might be cool, but I don’t care enough.

Are we going to have the option to clone our characters to era or progress to TBC like we did originally? Please tell me that is the case.

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Would be better if they just put 1 server of each per region and Region locked them!!! This would also help with botting and RMT especially considering most of the people who do these activities play in other countries outside of the USA. If they where not allowed to play on USA/CA servers then we would have less of this trash in the game.

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