I have 2 level 120 characters but want to play 1 or 2 characters of each class to pvp with, why should I take them all to 120? I don’t have time for that and BFA endgame doesn’t interest me enough to want to play more 120s. PVP is fun at all levels and I am going to use a built in feature such as the experience eliminator for its intended use, to stay at a level and enjoy the game from that level.
You are making no sense, so I’m going to just assume you’re derailing and hoping that makes a point.
Oh, good! I agree, that sounds like a great idea. And hey, you should be able to queue with and against others that’ve decided to do the same! Oh, but as for the rest of us that’re just trying to ease off the boredom of dungeon grinding constantly, we’d like it if you didn’t unbalance our own BGs in the meanwhile. We’re trying to have fun, after all.
Now what was the problem with that system? I don’t have time nor money to sit here and try and optimise every single bleeding digit for my alts just because I want to have a little leisure PvP from time to time. I have Crohn’s, I don’t have the time nor funds to do so.
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/Sigh you really like to show up whenever someone complains to tell them they’re wrong eh?
Exp off players sit in a bracket forever wrecking newbies endlessly. Heirlooms give an advantage yes, but not to the level of a twink with full enchants and every other bis. On top of that you would eventually level out and stop tormenting that bracket, twinks never leave.
It’s not even on the same level.
I twinked with friends a while ago and got bored of it. I’m a PvP skill should be more important than gear kind of guy. The people who play twinks don’t do it to help levelers which I saw someone claim (really hilarious actually). They do it because they like to feel important by winning the match for their team while stomping the enemy. The balance is also worse in low level PvP, so they’re not doing it for that reason.
The only people that would really suffer by removing exp off from ques would be twinks. Theyre not a huge population so their ques would go up and they wouldn’t be stomping people anymore so they’d get bored.
Exp on people would get slightly longer ques in return for not getting stomped. Additionally it would present a slightly better PvP experience for brand spanking new people maybe not deterring them from PvP all together. I might also do some low level PvP on my alts because I am surely not doing it now lol.
Twinks are kinda a joke. I honestly don’t care that much because low level PvP is a pretty brief period. Still I’m in favor of splitting exp on/off people.
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Speak for yourself, I’m having fun in leveling BGs.
“I’m the rule, everyone else is the exception.”
Can’t say it enough. I’m not impressed by this appeal. Comments like these are what my it really insulting when people say I am the one with the agenda. I just want the change reverted.
It takes no skill to twink and destroy levelling characters in BGs. None. And for all their chest-beating, they are giving this game the absolute crappiest first impression of PvP possible. Way worse than before the changes when it was just characters with heirlooms newbies had to worry about. I bet twinks could now auto-attack a new character and kill them.
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I would like more of your posts but it seems there is a daily limit on likes on these forums… lol
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I appreciate others just giving input. I’m dealing with a flareup and can’t be at the keyboard constantly due to how sick it’s making me, so it’s nice I’m not the only one here trying to reason with walls.
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Yea this is my problem with it. I wouldn’t care normally as I said, it’s a super brief period as leveling as quick. If new people experience PvP for the first time getting stomped though… Doesn’t really encourage them to try it at max.
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Well what about protecting the new levelers with no heirlooms and enchants, I think if we start separating, queues, you levelers with heirlooms/enchants, gold, and items mailed from another character should also be separated from new players without this. They are trying to have fun after all. You are also a twink by most definitions, and would end up being the one farming and camping people if you don’t get separated from new players. I was new before too, know how it is playing against anyone that has heirlooms and they all are twinks, not just the xp off people that farmed a little more gear then you.
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Class balance does this enough, even without twinks
Level enchanting. Then you arent forced to spend thousands on a enchants. Plus once you enchant a BoA, you never have to re-enchant it again. Its 1 and done.
When the twinks were gone for a bit, the forums were still flooded with complaints. It was class x or class y, or team imbalance, or factions, or lack of healers. The complaining never stops.
What makes them your BGs? Why should I have to stop doing something to further your enjoyment of the game? Myself and the rest of the wow population arent required to do a damn thing for anyone, and Im not sure how that mindset came about. This is the problem thats permeated the game for years now and part of the reason we have the WoW we do today.
BOOM. Nailed it.
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For the lower brackets, Heirlooms are right on par with other options.
Your Heirlooms can and (should) be enchanted which guarantees this as you level through.
Once 70, 80, 85, 90, etc. PVP Season sets become very close to or actual Best In Slot choices.
Honor Tokens = all pieces, Weapons and Gems.
Vendor - Trinkets, off pieces are sold at a reasonable price from vendors.
Players can wear the Heirlooms for XP bonus, or they can wear PVP sets in PVP.
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So you should also ask for mages/hunters/rogues/druid to be in their own queues while we’re at it…
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As I stated this is a hilariously bad argument ![:joy:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/joy.png?v=6" ":joy:")
even if someone twinked out a caharcter with exp on they would eventually have to level through the bracket and stop tormenting it.
Twinks sit in a bracket and torment it forever. Twinks don’t do it to protect newbies. Lamest lie I’ve ever hear.
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Incorrect.
Lol as I said balance sucks. Now twink out those characters. Pit them against brand new player playing affy lock. And leave them in that bracket forever. Sounds like a better idea for sure, my bad, you’re right ![:roll_eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/roll_eyes.png?v=6" ":roll_eyes:")
Sure. Delete it. Make another. Repeat. You really believe people dont ever delete a lowbie toon once it hits a certain bracket and then start over???
You can get rid of the xp off crowd, but we will still be making powerful toons and we will still be in the bracket. We wont be going away any time soon.
Lol what? If you have experience on you level … What!!! Lol
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Truly ridiculous. Once levellers are out of the bracket, those supposed newbies you’re clearly not actually concerned about are rid of us. And I’d actually be totally for them equalising all stats. Hey, why not?
Will you see a twink say the same? Their sole existence is to farm those newbies you’re talking about. Day in, day out. That’s all they were geared for, all they were enchanted for. Unless they’re put into separate brackets - as they were before - to compete with other twinks competitively. Now what’s to argue against that?
… I was talking in a hypothetical first-person point-of-view. What? Did you think this was a counter-argument of some kind?
This should be necessary to just enjoy a casual BG whilst levelling alts? Really? “To counter the twinks, become a twink yourself!” Dross.
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And all that time you spend leveling and regearing will be time spent away from camping lowbies. I’m cool with it.
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