If you could revive one lost Warrior spec what would it be?
Personally, I miss Gladiator stance, but would settle for Single Minded Fury.
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I never got to use Glad stance myself as I was a Hunter main at the time with a Pally/Lock alt but that’s what I want. I love being Sword and Board in video games and hate that I’m forced to tank or heal to use them. I would love to have Glad stance back.
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what else is there?
Maybe some hybrid specs from pre-cata talent trees?
I recall improved revenge being an arms talent at one point, but getting it as port meant sacrificing talents like shockwave to obtain it.
Basically any spec/build of warrior over the ages that is gone.
I just want a lot more meaningful utility choices. Throwdown, shockwave and storm bolt as one talent row. Juggernaut brought back. And in depth trees or artifact weapons where if I can put all my points into execute to make sure it actually executes someone.
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Shattering Throw, i loved that move.
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Wotlk Prot Shield Slam warrior pre nerf
Honestly, I just want to see more of the auxiliary utility and flow returned. From Wrath (greatest auxiliary utility) to Mists (greatest flow and core utility), we felt like a huge bag of tricks, but now it’s all so threshed down. I don’t want to see the old button count returned, but I do want back its capacity, integrated in smooth ways. Arms, especially, has never felt like it should be a “we whamwham hard” grunt spec, but more an actual tactician, and yet we’ve only moved further from that with each expansion since Wrath.
Now, I’ll admit that utility wasn’t always powerful enough to be worthwhile, but there was just so much cheesy goodness back then, like an Arms snap-tank via Revenge spam or swapping in for a Spell Reflect, or swapping just to shield to purge buffs via Shield Slam and get in an extra interrupt, or even dual-daggers Sudden Death proc flurries ripping apart an expecting dueler on the heels of Enrage and RfDT. Open that back up, this time leaving such things viable rather than trying to curtail or lock out their unintended strength, and the class would feel largely reinvigorated.
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I miss Odyn’s Fury.
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I miss when Mortal Strike and Execute didn’t heal my targets.
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If I was king for a day I’d wipe the minds of everyone so they didn’t remember SMF or gladiator talents.
IMO specs, specifically melee, are supposed to be guideline of what melee weapons they use. There shouldn’t be weapon variety within the spec as far as 1H vs 2H vs sword/board vs DW. That is up for the spec to define to fulfill that spec fantasy. If you’re going for fantasy over performance you should pick a spec whose fantasy speaks to you and that fantasy should be clearly defined by the spec.
I would consider an actual 4th spec option for warriors, but probably not follow through with it for warrior. I would rather fulfill the fantasy of 1H DW plate or sword/board DPS via another class.
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Dragon’s roar does virtually the same thing.
You might think you want juggernaut, but you dont. Its was such piss poor core mechanic. In a game of boss mechanic, having a player mechanic that prevent you from doing boss mechanic or if you do, you lose all damage posibility is really bad.
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That’s the thing though, the fantasy of a warrior was a jack of all trades when it came to weapon usage and Fury warrior was dual-wielding berserker well before titans grip was a thing.
Smf also draws from a time when sub-specs were built into the trees themselves. Guardian Druid wasn’t a thing until it got axed from feral. Frost Fire mage was a careful execution in tapering between two trees.
And it’s not even just about the fantasy either. I feel like blizzard is high on the smell of its own farts when it comes to having a class that can dual wield two handed weapons. In fact, they liked barbarian in Diablo 2 so much, it’s really been the only mainstay class in the series thus far.
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True but it changed your character. Nothing in the talent tree drastically changes your character. I was just offering that something that could surprise your opponent is rare because of pruning. Maybe if they gave a set of talents that rotate out on a monthly basis?
And I think that’s bad design that leads to additional complications of balancing the specs within specs that too much of a headache to bother with.
Good news for you is I’m not a Blizzard employee (as far as you know…) so you’re safe from my wrath. Albeit the design they have now is what I want anyways so maybe I’m actually Ion.
I loved Titan Grip from the day it was announced. SMF was a miserable addition to the game because no matter what, one was going to be better than the other, plus at the time personal loot wasn’t a thing. You ultimately had to go with what weapons dropped, and if you had both weapons, you had to go with what was better.
Legion making your weapons so specific and iconic to your spec was one of the best things blizzard ever did. If only we still had our artifacts.
I disagree. While I prefer the current system where weapons are balanced and Item levels and stats are all that matters restricting weapon types really took the fun out of things for me. They brought it back for a few classes, mainly the casters (Only sham get shields.) that have a ton of options with wands, staves, Swords, maces, shields, daggers and the random offhand.
I would be happy if we had more freedom with Transmog, Fury Warriors, for example, should be able to Transmog into 1h weapons. 2H for frost and I’m sure other specs lost their old class fantasy. I can understand restricting us to items to make it easier balancing things but there is no harm in freeing up our Transmog options.
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But was it really that bad?
Let me put it this way, if TG was simming a few % higher than SMF at some tier in an expansion, and I as a SMF warrior am out dpsing a TG warrior (similar other gear) does it make me a better warrior? Was rng on my side? What if the opposite happened? Was it random chance again or should I go respec?
In my times playing the “lesser specs” never have I felt so disparingly out performed that it made me go completely out of my way to switch to the “superior spec”.
And catch me playing TG fury when everyone decides Arms is the cookie cutter best dps.
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