Would you have played on if the story was about Order halls than Faction War?

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Would you people have preferred the Order Hall story to continue than a fresh attempt at the faction war?

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I would have played regardless of the story, but I would have rathered we don’t have a faction war expansion.

The story is just so boring. Sure Alliance sacked Dazar’alor, but all that happened is the Alliance killed some NPC’s that don’t matter and gave justification for Talanji replacing Rastakhan, who was dying anyway, and all the Horde did was injure Mekkatorque, who even Alliance players will be forgiven for forgetting even existed in the first place.

The losses and gains are too superficial to ever make a faction war story engaging, and while we don’t know the specifics of how the story is going to end, we know it’s going to end in either a stalemate, or it’s going to end in one side winning, but graciously forgiving the other for reasons™.

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I liked that every class got a lot of attention with Class Sets, Class Mounts, Class Storylines which made people motivated to level alts.

Now…there’s nothing.

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I would play it either way :slight_smile:

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I really enjoyed that aspect of Legion. Lore-wise, Warlocks haven’t really gotten much attention in the main story.

We exist, sure, but there aren’t any Warlock heroes like there are for Paladins like Tirion, Mages with Jaina or Dadghar, Warriors with Saurfang or Varian, Druids with Malfurion, and so on. We had a villain here or there, but nobody really got any attention until Legion with Gul’dan being a side character until Hellfire Citadel where he got sucked into a portal and spat out into the main timeline.

Class Halls filled that niche for the underrepresented class, and it give us an aesthetic to work to for ALL classes, not just whatever was lucky enough to have a cool theme for that tier. Legion made Warlocks feel important as a class to the story, not just because we’re a good class in raids.

Also I miss tier sets. Class Armour effectively not existing doesn’t feel good. Cloth gear in Dazar’alor looks good for a Warlock, or maybe a Shadow Priest, but looks ridiculous on a Mage. With Azerite armour, if the aesthetic of the raid doesn’t match your class, you’re outta luck. You’re not getting anything that looks good in Dazar’alor if your class/race doesn’t look good covered in skulls.

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So would I and I wouldn’t be here if I were saying the opposite but Order Halls were the actual “Class Fantasy” which Blizzard kept going on about

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While I enjoyed the class halls, I am not sure I would have wanted it to continue. I wouldn’t be against it I guess. But I like different expansions having different quirks.

I am by no way saying I agree with the entire direction BFA took.

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I agree with what you said. It seems sadly that Blizzard is not THAT capable as it was writing the Horde and the Alliance into a new contrived faction war. While it got people excited at the beginning, I suppose we’re just resigned to MoP MK2

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I enjoyed Legion’s order halls more than I’m enjoying the faction war. I think it would be more compelling if it wasn’t alliance vs horde vs forsaken. Having common ground with the alliance takes the punch out of all the drama.
I think blizzard is going to downplay the faction conflict in the second half of the xpac where we definitely won’t be fighting old gods. There are no old gods in BFA.

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I think we were all taken off-guard by the high quality level of the Legion expansion, especially after the disaster that was Warlords. It was always going to be hard to follow Legion: the story elements alone were epic, the writing was actually pretty good, and the stakes were about as high as they could get.

I don’t begrudge a 2nd faction war expansion, I begrudge the really poor storytelling and writing. BFA is a clear step down in terms of expansion quality and polish.

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Credit where it’s due, Blizzard have been far more ambitious with the faction war story. The Horde lost Undercity and the Alliance lost Darnassus.

But even though these are both technically faction capitals, the losses still just feel like bigger versions of Southshore or Taurajo. Insignificant losses that don’t have any real noticeable impact on the world as a whole.

EDIT: Naxius touched on a really good point. Because of the nature of Zandalar and Kul Tiras, a lot of the story feels disjointed for the opposite side of the faction. Why do the Alliance care what happens in Atal’dazar, or UIdir? What are the Horde doing in Shrine of the Storms or Waycrest Manor?

Obviously Blizzard can’t just say “this dungeon is Alliance or Horde only”, but even in dungeons which are ostentatiously Alliance or Horde exclusive, the quests give us a reason to be there. Horde for example want to steal the Defias’ ship in the Deadmines, kill the Goblins who’ve left their cartel and steal the plans for the Foe Reaper and in Ragefire Chasm, the Alliance are looking for a way to sneak into Orgrimmar.

There isn’t even a little bit of a reason of why the Alliance would care about the Horde problems in Atal’dazar or King’s Rest.

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I didn’t feel the Rogue story in Legion was super interesting so I’m fine leaving it behind.

The faction war could have been interesting but feels so shallow. So many characters died during Legion that the stakes felt high. Despite this being an all out war, there feels like there’s such lower stakes.

And, of course, despite the fact the game is all about a faction war, yet most of my playtime has been doing WQs and IEs and dungeon, which often do not participate in the War directly, this whole xpac story feels…disjointed.

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Well, the Order Hall storyline wasn’t the central plot of Legion, so no. But more than any other issue, I’d have to say I’m most disappointed in BfA because of its central premise.

  1. As a central premise, recruiting new allies for a forthcoming faction war just hasn’t been very exciting. I’m not eagerly anticipating each new advance in the war campaign.
  2. The split faction experience is a bit of a dud. For each character, you only effectively level and quest in three zones. That just isn’t enough, IMO.
  3. The faction war has just never got going. And this is because the content is all over the place. Pirates and dinosaurs are cool, but what do they have to do with the faction war? The witches of Drustvar? Uldir? Individually, some of the smaller stories are fine. Taken as a whole, it’s complete gibberish.
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I’m sitting BfA out specifically because of the faction war. With everything that happened in Legion and how it ended, I saw no logic to it. Our order halls could have stuck around. We may have defeated the Legion but there was still a clear threat to Azeroth’s survival. The unbelievably titanic sword impaled in it.

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I don’t play for the story. I play my classes.

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Yes. BFA’s war story is complete garbage.

It’d also let blizzard add reasons why we don’t have allied races for dks.

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I don’t play the game for the boring story.

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100%, specially being a DK, there’s SO much to be explored, since we basically managed to piss every single main faction in the game. But maybe the most important one being the Silver Hand, more so than Alliance and Horde, since they already didn’t like DKs, now they kinda have a reason to go to war.

They gave LK Bolvar some time in the spotlight and then did nothing else.

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I still have to go to mine for runeforges.

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I would have been bored as hell if it was more about order hall crap.