Like a Void Stalker Hunter inspired by Alleria or something more tech based Hunters could use?
As much as a headache as it is for me I’d personally be up for additional hero specs being released for classes.
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Not until they figure out the current ones.
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Hero Talents were a huge mistake, so no.
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They can barely balance the existing as is.
That being said, Warden would be cool for Rogue. Blademaster for Warrior.
lmao.
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Definitely!
I want a technology based Hunter focused on traps, bombs and Mech Pets 
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Honestly, no.
They can barely balance those they have, and nerfing / buffing anything is like to have a ripple effect throughout the rest leading to more imbalanced nonsense.
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Something Bard-y for Hunters imo
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No, adding on too many options makes balancing exponentially more difficult
It’s only 2 different trees now…then next expansion they’ll have to balance both new trees equally between choosing one or the other of the current trees, then the next set they would have to balance every single iteration…
Hero talents are already just normal talents built into their own trees in order to sell them as an expansion feature anyway - just roll them back into the regular talent trees and come up with some other special feature that’ll be a bit more sustainable in the long term
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I’d like the option of skipping the hero talents entirely and putting the points into other talents on the main trees.
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It’s not possible at this point or any point in the foreseeable future… just look at this patch’s mess. Besides that, class balance is already and sort of always has been a nightmare. More specs would just add waaaay more to that. But it’d be interesting… like people always wanted earth shaman tanks… That’d be cool. But probably never gonna happen.
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Aren’t Hero Talents just… a “glorified mini class tree” shared just between 2 specs?
What would be different between adding new hero speciallizations and a whole bunch of new talents to the class or spec tree? By this logic we wouldn’t get anything new ever.
On the OP, I’m up for more! But I wonder if they went that route, they would need to add 3 for every class - to keep equality between the specs - or just 1 that is shared with all of them.
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Sure, if you wanna be super disingenuous or ignorant and ignore class reworks, talent tree changes, tuning, et cetera.
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Yeah, absolutely.
A part of me wonders if this is an experiment to try and test the waters with class fantasy with hero specs as opposed to making new classes or additional hero classes. I was thinking it could be possible we start seeing some more crazy ones out there, like perhaps a mage knight, chronomancer, necromancer, or blademaster. Things that are close to one class but with a more specified identity I guess.
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Putting them in the normal trees means they only have to be balanced around one spec, and their identity and placement alongside other talents can be better defined by having to choose which talents you take, instead of just getting all of them
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All of that you mentioned is also rebalancing. Anything they would add to the talent trees would have the possibility of being imbalanced nonsense, let it be Hero Talents, regular talents or whatever new power system.
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Yes.
And they would be in the spec trees themselves or the class tree which is ubiquitous between all specs, rather than in trees that are meant to apply to two specs.
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If I don’t consider balancing, I’m inclined to say yes.
Some hero talents in my opinion are better than others, but my metric for that is what is most visually appealing.
I think my feral hero talents suck compared to the new Dark Ranger talents.
My warrior talents visually don’t really change anything. My monk talents kind of do, and are alright. For those two classes my rotations didn’t drastically change from last expansion and I’m fine with that.
I’d like more fun, fantastical talents that are visually distinct and appealing. Balancing and tuning be damned.
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I want shaman tanks. It’s not up for debate. They need to stop everything they’re doing and make it happen
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I still don’t see a huge difference when class trees need to be balanced for 3 specs instead of Hero Tree’s 2 specs. And expecting Hero Trees to be merged with the spec trees would only happen if they ever consider the thing a failure, because as far as I can remember didn’t they want this to be an evergreen system instead of a temporary one?
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Then don’t.
The OP was asking for people’s opinions, I gave mine, and so far you haven’t given me any good reason to change it.
Feel free to argue with a blizzard dev through email in your position’s favor if you want, tho, ‘cause spittin’ at me isn’t going to get either of us anywhere.
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