Was thinking of one spec that you could raid with and be great at AoE, either solo or in groups. One that you wouldnt need to respec.
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I came up with this. Now with this your only role while raiding would be keeping up 5 stacks of winters chill and 5 stacks of imp scorch on bosses. You would come in handy for AoE situations though too and your other mages could spec out of winters chill or imp scorch.
I think in most situations you would be using scorch as your primary spell solo or in 5 mans and raids. As Far as winters chill goes i think you could just use rank 1 frostbolt in beginning of fight til 5 stacks then mix one in every 12 scorches or so.
AoE is the fun part though
You could slow and root packs with Blizzard. Frost Nova, Flamestrike, Blastwave which both would have 40% higher chance to crit from frozen targets. and if that crits you get 30% mana back and the burn for ignite damage.
all of your fire spells have 10% stun which is nice for scorch and AoE.
Dont need cold crit damage since blizzard cant crit and CoC can just be primarily used as a slow.
I think it could be a fun spec in all aspects of the game with a focus on AoE and increasing damage for other mages.
I’ve seen a couple mages running similar specs on their alts. It’s a decent support build that allows AoE farming outside of raids, but you’ll never top charts or even really be very competitive dps-wise at all, but as long as you know your place a utility and keep up the scorches/WC then I don’t see why a group wouldn’t take you through BWL. AQ you’ll likely need to respec though.
I get what you’re doing and I get why but if you know how to aoe farm with at least medium efficiency, respecing a couple times a week should be no problem.
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this is a fun aoe spec but you are missing critical talents on fire and frost tree
you are not fire nor a frost mage without piercing ice, ice shards, critical mass and fire power
this is not a good raid spec
edit: btw, you can farm the lashers in DME easily with arc/frost build and even easier with a fire spec with imp flamestrike and/or blast wave. if you also have herb you can make a decent gold/h
edit2: no way a class leader would allow you to step into a raid without imp fire ball/frostbolt. this spec you made is not even a good spec for aoe if you are using blizzard, you should never get the frostbite talent because it will screw your aoe up, the same reason why you shouldnt get impact, they are nice if you need to pvp only. and if you are not using blizzard there’s no need to get permafrost and imp blizzard. to assist other fire mages you need to get 3/3 imp scorch which you dont
if you want a decent aoe spec that allows you to raiding go full frost:
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if you have another frost mage on your team at least you can help him being the winters chill mage
most fire mages have 2/3 imp scorch so me having 2/3 should be fine if we all start the stack
no fire mage should be 2/3 imp scorch, makes no sense. only if you have 7+ mages with hit cap in your raid team