Hello, all!
I’m sure that others have raised this issue before, but I am posting this regardless so that there are more voices added to the disgruntlement.
I would love to play and main a shaman — preferably Enhancement — but they are in such a sorry state in regard to survivability that it feels useless and futile to make the attempt. I played my shaman for many years in the past, and it was great at times. The issue now is in self-healing. The sparse small whiffs of healing that we get from from the 20-Maelstrom Healing Surge is small and, in comparison to any other spec, dishearteningly pathetic.
I urge developers to reconsider shaman self-healing and make an effort to be at least somewhat tolerable to play. I regularly compare my Enh shaman to my Feral druid, and my cat can take on multitudes more enemies than Enh without concern. Shamans have fun visuals and play-styles, but they just cannot survive in the wild. This applied to PvE and PvP.
Even if the approach is to simply boost Healing Surge and keep the mechanics as-is, please do review the state of Shamans. Corrections are needed. Until I can play my shaman at perhaps just 70% of the capacity of other classes, it will be left in the darkness.
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Enhancement aren’t viable for PVE?
When did that happen?
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This solo survivability issue has been an issue for a couple of years. To clarify for you, this is not an issue of damage output while in a group.
I guess I still dont see a pve survivability issue to the point you can’t even play the spec/they aren’t viable. I mean, is this specifically about when an expansion is new and the first week when people are fresh max level and undergeared?
Example, I do solo 5 mask runs as enhance.
Could they use some help? Sure. But they are definitely viable for the content.
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Enhancement is in a bad spot, also will be because the lead boy ION has never even been enhance this whole xpac, so he doesn’t think it has issues.
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There is a difference between “needs help” and “isn’t viable”, “futile to even try”.
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Great but most people would rather take an ele over an Enhancement you can’t argue that part. Also in the same arugment of people wanting to use two handed enhance and dw enhance is in the same area 1 won’t be viable so in a sense, since you dislike the idea of two hander then that would mean in this patch xpac enhance isn’t viable.
Nothing to do with the original statement.
wait…what?
Nothing in that statement makes any sense.
Enhance are completely viable in all forms of content.
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What’s better ele or enhance.
Irrelevant to the question.
Elemental being better than enhance does not mean that enhance is not viable.
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Ok so now that we have agreed that ele is better. we can then agree that in that same argument that makes enhance not viable. Ele is viable everywhere enhance is not.
No we have not.
No it does not.
This is not true.
Nothing you are saying makes any sense.
We do not live in a world where only the best spec of a class is the only spec viable. Thats not how it works.
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Actually everything I am saying makes sense. Furthermore We did agree that ele is better, you main as ele there is a reason behind that. Also we do infact live in a world where one spec for classes are better then others making the weaker spec less to not viable. Also you are a Fire shaman enhance is a wind shaman and resto is a water shaman.
No.
I flip back and forth between ele and enhance, depending on the fight and m+ affixes. I have mostly run m+ lately as enhance. I do visions almost entirely as enhance.
No we don’t.
Is your point to say as much irrelevant information as possible?
Cause I think I will just move on. I am not sure you have any clue what you are talking about.
You are in a fantasy world if you think enhance is better then ele, which I know you don’t ive seen your past post you are a strong ele who thinks ele is this or that you also think enhance is fine and doesnt need to many changes you are a cancer to your own class, that also thinks it doesnt need more options.
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I didn’t say either is better.
At this point I will just assume you are here to troll.
Have a great night. I sincerely hope you actually play shaman once or twice before the next time you comment on them.
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Warcraft logs likes to call you a liar you are ele main all the way you don’t try to bounce between the two stop. I’ve prolly played shaman longer then you. so let’s not go there champ.
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‘Warcraft Logs likes to call you a liar’
In what way?
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PvP it’s no surprise they need another defensive or better self healing but PvE-wise they’re not dying anymore than other classes even at a top level assuming you know how to handle mechanics.
That is until about level 23+ keys where not even just enhancement is going to have survivability issues with unavoidable damage.
edit: I mean to say: they are most definitely “viable”.
One spec excelling in a niche area or gameplay type does not inherently make the other spec non-viable.
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