I have seen people complaining about this things about WOW in general:
PVP gear behind a rating wall
Needing to PVE for PVP
Warglaives
Class Imbalances
Well let me introduce you WOTLK:
Healers are broken and are unkillable, they basically decide entire games
Forced Arena rating to get pvp gear, no Rated BG’s so is all about the poopshow meme minigame called arenas that even the developers themselves admited it was a mistake.
You need PVE gear in PVP
SHADOWMOURNE LMAO
DK and Paladins are completely broken and people will tell you “Oh no it was just at the beginning, they were nerfed after…” and similar gaslighting or misrepresentation of the facts and reality, even after the nerfs those 2 classes were completely broken specially DK. GUESS WHAT CLASSES CAN USE SHADOWMOURNE??? LMAO
Add to that this two beauties:
No Group Finder because “bLiZzArD kNoUs VeSt!”
There is a high chance you will be forced to go into Cataclysm, look at what they are about to do to TBC servers. And you can save your excuses fanboy, telling us about the “failure” that are vanilla servers when Blizzard could perfectly well solve the issue by merging all into two big servers per region (1 pvp and 1 pve) but they wouldn’t get that precious transfer money if they did that lmao.
Yea healers are pretty good here and this is one of the xpacs that will drive blizz to add dampening. However u can still kill things in wotlk I wouldn’t say they are unkillable.
Gear behind rating/M+ level/Raid norm/heroic/eventually mythic… Yea man it’s WoW and still hasn’t changed.
PvE gear in PvP has never left WoW, hell there are even times the PvE wants PvP gear GASP, maybe not in wotlk though. This is nothing new, and would take sweeping changes in all of WoW not just wotlk.
Shadowmourne seems cool kinda like stun herald in TBC but u could craft that one? Glaives? Theres always BiS man this is also…Nothing new
Class balance is never perfect in this game no matter what version you play if your expecting this, you are in the wrong game. Show me a time where there is no “meta”.
No group finder is something I will agree with you there should be a group finder of some kind IMO. Spamming LFG isn’t “immersion” or “social”
Me personally I wont play Cata, might as well just go to retail
For reference I will be playing on the wotlk fresh servers as either a druid or a sham so I won’t even get to play with the MOURNEEEE
Did you see all the servers they are closing down?
PvP, no one really cares.
Really. No one actually cares.
Oh?
Did your magic 8 ball tell you that?
There is no evidence of this whatsoever.
When Classic Vanilla launched, people IMMEDIATELY started asking to push towards Wrath.
No so with Cata. Most posts I’ve seen would either call for a stop at Wrath, or a complete skip to MoP (which they could easily do, if they really wanted).
Most people didn’t even really want TBC, except as a vehicle to get to Wrath.
They saw what happened with Vanilla. Most people moved to TBC. truth be told, most people weren’t really interested in Vanilla or TBC. The real interest was Wrath because that has always been the perceived “sweet spot” for “Classic WoW”.
There were a lot of people that wanted to “force” players to stay in Vanilla, either by releasing nothing else and just going with “Classic +” (which is just a weird concept that sounds good on paper but would more than likely suck in execution) OR by not linking progress from Vanilla to TBC, thereby “forcing” people to choose between their already established characters or rerolling on the “fresh” TBC servers and straight abandoning their Vanilla character entirely. Blizz choose the “soft option” of having a split server option which very few people took, which is why they gave up on that idea.
This “precedent” is exactly what should have been expected. There were VERY few people that wanted only Vanilla servers, and even fewer that wanted TBC. Wrath is what everyone has been waiting for, and it’s the xpac that most illegal servers run anyway.
You are wrong dude, Blizzard screwed up Vanilla really bad and when they basically bribed people with allowing them to transfer characters to TBC (classic servers were supposed to be played from lvl 1 and they were supposed to open servers for each expansion not allow transfers) they sealed the deal, and even then they allowed Vanilla servers to stay. With TBC they arent doing that, they are not giving you even an option.
Your whole “vanilla wasn’t popular” is an outright lie, Vanilla brought tons of people to play again and currently with how blizzard has allowed cheaters,botters,gold buyers etc a new massive vanilla pserver is going to open soon, there is really high demand for vanilla.
I didn’t missread kid, you know what you were saying there weren’t “few” people that wanted vanilla, there are TONS of them, you are now trying to backpedal and use shenanigans to missrepresent what you were saying.
Yea I’m waiting for the Everlook server, Vanilla is just on another level, after people get to see that wrath sucked everyone is going to want a fresh vanilla server again.
kinda like stun herald in TBC but u could craft that one? Glaives? Theres always BiS man this is also…Nothing new