whats nonsense is that lfr rewards any gear much less a higher ilvl than heroics, let alone teir gear. I’d be good with lfr if they made it normal dungeon ilvl or stripped all gear out completely.
Just learn to socialize and you’ll be able to find a guild that doesn’t force you to do lfr. Stop trying to change the game to make up for your lack of social skills. You have to learn how to socialize. You can’t force people into it by changing the game.
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Do people have to force you to be competitive? I have no problems socializing, as you can see from my many alt’s wowlogs.
SO i understand youre trying to be ironic here, but Not adding lfr, IS NOT removing lfr. we currently play this game and i’d like to see my play remain unchanged by the implementation of RDF OR LFR. Like i said previously im good with RDF *AFTER the 2nd phase of any given expansion. and im also good with lfr that doesnt provide meaningful gear.
Why would I check your alts or their warlogs. You’re not some professional basketball player that I might check your stats. You’re just some player in a video game. You’re not even a professional video game player and I don’t even care about that.
That’s why I suggested you learn to socialize. If you had good friends in the game and were in a good guild those tools wouldn’t change your game.
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I dont need to have good friends to “skip” being competitive. If theres an advantage im going to take it, and those “tools” provide way to much of an advantage to ignore.
Obviously you dont need them if you arent utilizing the advantage. youve got friends and plenty of time, you dont need to go from 1 dungeon a night to 3, youre just gonna be doing nothing more than dungeons all expansion anyways. Pace yourself friend.
So the game needs to be changed for everyone because you lack any form of self-control. Ok.
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Rofl, PvE players are not split on RDF.
As we’ve already seen you don’t bother to read what other people post. That’s why you didn’t know that some devs disagreed with Birmingham’s decision to remove the rdf. I very clearly stated several times that I like to level. I like to play the whole game. I like to quest. I like to run dungeons. And I like to raid. I’m not rushing to get to end game. I’m not skipping the leveling content. If you bothered to read anything other people posted you’d see where I said when I played wrath I’d log in, go to someplace to quest or farm, then join the rfd queue.
If you used the rdf to just spam dungeons that’s a you problem. I used it not just to find a group for a dungeon but also to make it easier to not just get out in the world to quest and farm.
A large part of socializing, and something you clearly need to learn is to listen to the other people you’re socializing with. Don’t just talk at them.
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Exactly so youre in no rush, and not having RDF presents no major problem for you. Got it. Doesnt seem like a problem they really need to solve for you, less of a need, more of a want. got it.
And you want to rush to end game to raid log. I don’t see how rdf presents a problem for you.
I want to play the game. It’s fun for me. I want to do the content not skip it like you to rush to end game. I don’t want to spend game time looking for people to do content with. I want to be able to actually play the game
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It doesnt because it doesnt exist. It does when its a clearly designed part of the pace for a majority of raiders. Which it would be if its introduced in the first phase, which it wont be.
Like ive said here many times, make it equal to manual grouping, or make it not a part of the phase one progression and im good. i wouldnt feel forced to use it in toc.
except there are other mmos that prove that an RDF system DOES NOT kill the social aspect of the game. FFiv i believe would be enoug proof of that. but hey, like i said, i cant comprehend the selfishness that you and other anti RDF folks display by taking away choices from other players.
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This is a bad comparison, ffxiv absolutely goes above and beyond in ways wow has never simply to improve the social aspects of the game, like new player bonuses, and sprout markers, like commendations that award mounts titles and experience. These are things wow doesnt do to make up for ground that is definitely lost by the amount of queuing and the disposability of other players.
On the bright side, no one in the verse could present a more compelling argument for RDF than that people like Nyseine are against it, and are incapable of defending their position without resorting to flagrantly bad-faith argumentation.
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You don’t need anything in this game. That gear you’re obsessing over so you can extreme min/max isn’t a need. It’s just something you want.
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And yet the devs are coming down on my side because they want to make sure that that playstyle is perserved. So we both have equal points of view. The devs decided one way and not another. seems like its all fine. You absolutely can rally against them deciding it, but my main issue with pro rdf people is the idea that people who dont want rdf dont get an opinion, or are trying to actively harm other players.
so because it isnt world of warcraft its a bad comparison? i believe he asked me to show you proof of a non single player game where an RDF worked. so i did, and now you are attacking because it doesnt suit your comparison requirements? wow, troll much?
The game isnt rdf in a vacuum, it can (and should) be argued that any ground lost by rdf and lfr is regained by awesome features like everything commendations do, as well as the sprout system and rewards.
Oh im not trying to defend him, i didnt see anyone quote him saying that, and i certainly wouldnt defend it. RDF works fantastically in ffxiv
You very much should consider all the other things squenix is doing to promote actually good positive socialization in their game.
AND you obviously dont keep up on the subject as the pro rdf’ers dont give two cents about the bonuses. they could remove the bonus chest and limit the emblems to 1 run a day and WE DONT CARE. those of us wanting it arent trying to get a competitive edge on anyone. its quality of life for us and thats it. its tools like you that require the game to be designed around the experience YOU want because achievements and showing off your gear ahead of everyone else, for some reason, makes you feel better about yourself.
thats sad really that you would take away someones born right to choose to make yourself feel better.
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and welcome to the no fly list. you obviously need the achievements in game first to make your real life less miserable, so im done. peace, i hope you find a better way to validate yourself than a video game.
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