[WotLK] Let's talk Dungeon Finder

Blizzard didn’t create this.

Disagree completely. Layers may not be ideal but it doesn’t come close to being as bad as RDF.

Everyone hopes they continue to go after bots.

Yup! The game has been a great release and I’m having a lot of fun. I don’t expect perfection before I give praise, and the game is currently still fantastic without being perfect.

This is the thing people don’t seem to understand, how on earth does Dungeon Finder remove the social aspect when it does not silence you when you queue for a dungeon and enter it through Dungeon Finder? Sure, people can be quiet in Dungeon Finder, people do not have to talk.

I’ll put it this way, about 1 in 10 dungeons I have ran in Classic, someone was socializing, the rest were Anti-Social. On Retail, same thing, 1 in 10. Dungeon Finder didn’t destroy the social aspect of the game, people just changed because the entire game changed. Because the community just doesn’t want to engage with the content because Blizzard has lost it touch on what the content is truely supposed to feel like.

Take the borrowed powered we had in Legion, BfA and SL for example. Is the game supposed to be about Endless Grinds that doesn’t make sense for the game.

And people who says Dungeon Finder made things too simple, no, the stat squish that took place in WoD, BfA and the level squish that happened in SL, as well as the pruning of abilities that took place from WoD to BfA, simplified the game, and this was based on the devs decision, not the community.


Show me proof you got a survey for RDF.

If not then you are just a troll, I can tell by how condescending you are towards others.


Good luck with that one, they’ll probably make one up and make it sound like most people don’t want Dungeon Finder, or even tell you to Google it.

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You are inventing things.

Why would I do that when I don’t have to prove anything. Blizzard already did not include RDF and they are never adding it? It doesn’t matter how many people want it. They already ignored you and made the correct choice.

cool so we agree on this part and for that i’ll remind you that more than 100times blizzard said something then did back off, this been happening in past 20years in all their games since WC3

that’s what the blue post said but at one point they will suddenly and magically reverse what they said (lol at 2016 we’re not releasing old expansions then at 2018 we have great news!!! classic is coming)


They’ve also said many more things and not changed them.

What they said back then is unrelated. They weighed this decision over months. They acknowledged they were considering it all the way back in April. They responded matter-of-factly Aug 8 so you wouldn’t invest time in the game with a false expectation. If you’re still here, you have the resources available to you to know that you’re never getting RDF and choosing to stay anyway.

They recently said they are at active discussions about it still. Which means the plans may change and they may eventually add Dungeon Finder to Wrath Classic. Would you like me to link the video to show you the proof.


No they didn’t.

Tell me that Brian Birmingham, the lead dev of World of Warcraft Classic, didn’t again


Just an FYI, you’re arguing with a 3-day old toon that has made almost 300 posts, all anti RDF and very antagonizing. They don’t play the game and spend all their time here pissing people off.

They’re just trolling you, so don’t take the bait.


You said recent. I said they didn’t. You’re wrong. The video is from Apr 19. They discussed it. Then they made their decision. Here is their response Aug 8:

You can stick your fingers in your ears and ignore them but they are very clear on their intentions and you aren’t getting RDF.

i don’t mind if rdf existed or not, but i don’t agree on blizzard decision because i know there are tons of players in need for the RDF if to level with or to be able to run dungeons at max level instead of stressing their eyes on spam chat or use the useless in game gf tool.

however i’m still believing that rdf will surely arrive at one point in WotlkC because i stopped trusting blizzard words long time ago.

Ok, so, I dare you to go onto Social Media, or create a thread on the forums, and tell Brian Birmingham that he is a liar.

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I didn’t frequent the forums previously. You reasons to invalidate my opinions are petty.

You know nothing about what I do.

Number 1 response to anyone who likes the game by the miserable people who pay to be here because even though they don’t.

He didn’t lie. They didn’t make a choice you agree with. The game is better for it. Their decision implies they think your opinions are an acceptable loss.

You’re right. I didn’t agree with there decission. But the video I linked to you, was posted on April 20th. Few weeks after the announcement of Dungeon Finder won’t be added, Brian Birmingham said in that video, the team is still in active conversation about it. Something which you chose to ignore because you’re happy with the first decission that was made. Even Brian Birmingham said it in that video said the decission was split between the devs, which means, they did not ask the community, nor relied on any so called data that you claim.

Based on your own opinion, not based on an actual fact.

There decission doesn’t mean my opinion is a loss. How good are you at trolling.


…and, then, they replied August 8 with their final answer. I even linked it for you.

Of course its an opinion. It’s a subjective topic. Thousands upon thousands of people are actively playing it. Unless that changes, it validates they made the correct choice. The game is awesome and better for it and the active player count is a signal of validation.

Sure it does. They weighed the choice to add RDF or not. They chose to exclude it. If your opinion is that it should be in the game, they knew that way of thinking existed, and they chose to proceed contrary to that opinion. They “accepted” the consequences.

That blue post, that was posted on April 8th? That is not August 8th. 0/10 for the attempt.

EDIT: Sorry, my fault, I misread the month, you were correct, I apologize for that. But my point still stands, the devs are still in active discussion about it, regardless.

Easy to read those to months backwards. No biggy.

There is no evidence it is up for debate any longer. They weighed the pros and cons of the choice for months. They were up-front with their choice.