WOTLK doesn't need RDF

This is a lie.

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This one is my personal favorite. It’s irrational for us to have expected that a Wrath feature would be in Wrath classic.

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My favorite was in another thread, same subject. He kept going on and on about some damn vanilla only ice cream shop and that if I was a chocolate lover it would be better off if I left to be with other chocolate lovers… no joke, it was like 5 posts full of that.

Just bizarre rants that I think make perfect sense to him and nobody else.

It’s irrational to have expected an exact replica of original wrath with nothing removed or added.

It’s strange how you comprehend things. Like it actually does make me curious. It’s either authentic or you’re just doing it on purpose in order to maintain a narrative that I’m not making any points or arguments, but I legitimately believe it’s the former.

I read the words that you write and I take them at face value. It shouldn’t be that strange, but since you seem to be trying to read between the lines and find some ulterior motive to everything I type I guess I can see how that might seem strange to you.

There were so few significant content changes made to classic and TBCC that it honestly never occurred to me that they might even consider straight up removing a feature as big as RDF. Admittedly, I didn’t think about it much, because - again - I was accustomed to the pattern of re-releasing content warts and all.

That you can type what you type and have the nerve to try and pretend half your posts aren’t literally dripping with condescension suggests you’re either wholly dishonest or a great fool. Either way it’s obvious that engaging with you isn’t really worth the time and energy.

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I remember that. No offense, but you didn’t really come across in the best light there either. That did remind me of his absolutely awful analogy about how RDF is McDonald’s and forming your own group is wholesome home-cooked nutritious meals.

Because, No. Forking No. The dungeons are the content, they’re the meals and they are McDonald’s. Make no bones about that, Wrath Heroics are McDonald’s. RDF is pulling into the drive through, rolling a d6 and ordering the corresponding combo meal because you need caloric intake and you’re at McDonald’s so it barely matters what it is. Filet O’Fish is The Oculus. Fight me. LFG/Bulletin Board is going inside, HR>SR is asking them to hold the pickles, add extra - whatever; and then sitting down to eat it in the restaurant.

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None taken. I wasn’t really trying to to be.

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I can go ahead and use your example just fine.

RDF is a drive through.

But Classic WoW is attempting to be a sit-down restaurant, not a fast food one.

RDF pushed original WoW down the road of becoming a fast food restaurant, which it still replicates to this day.

RDF cheapens the full MMO experience, that which is all the tedious bells and whistles in doing basically anything, such as forming a group. They are all an important part of the immersion and the effort-based reward factor in every action you take.

It’s applying pageantry to a fast food meal. You’d have a point and I might have a different opinion if Blizzard was going to adjust the difficulty of Wrath Heroics or were really engaging with the player-base on some solutions to the population imbalance on so many servers (and between servers) but they’re not trying any of that. They’re stretching caution tape over the drive thru entrance, throwing away the headsets and putting out place settings. At McDonald’s. And you’re walking in trying to tell the rest of us how fancy it is.

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Pugging without LFD is drive through as is.

You are just whining that mcdonalds is better than wendy’s.

We aren’t talking about a filet mignon vs a burger. We’re talking about a mcdonald’s burger vs a wendy’s burger. They are the same.

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I don’t think anyone was expecting it to be 100% the same, but no LFD is a pretty big change.

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I would say it will be far and way the largest change made to classic to date (excluding SoM of course).

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Agreed. The previous biggest change was same faction BGs, which I was also against.

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Because it’s the biggest one.

Not having LFD (at least prior to ICC) is somehow #NoChange. Because WOTLK existed without LFD.

Most of it did, to be clear.

This is completely your subjective opinion, based on which things you think are a big deal and which aren’t.

I’d say a feature that the expansion originally existed mostly without is not some kind of major tent pole feature that it requires to exist or succeed.

Why change the most successful expansion ever? Wrath was peak WoW. A copy and paste is a guaranteed success, while making changes is a huge risk.

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Just because it was the “most successful” doesn’t mean there weren’t things about it that were bad and would be subject to #somechanges. I can think of a number of things, actually.

Why not strive for greatness instead of being complacent?

Wrath IS greatness when compared to all of WoW’s history.

It can be greater.

That’s the point.

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Sure and if blizzard was actually announcing some changes that would address the issues LFD addresses that would be great.

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