WOTLK Classic: 2v2 Arena, I need advice/Help

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So, in Wrath Classic I play Holy Paladin (me) and Arms warrior. (don’t hate me, its the only comp I can play with the friends I have to play with)

We can’t seem to break 2k. We got as close as 1999 (no joke) and lost it all the way down to 1943 after getting back to 1997, etc. We just bounce up and down.

We win against most comps, but we can’t seem to beat the comps blizzard matches us against when we get close to 2k…

Our losses when we get close to 2k are to:

Feral/Disc Priest
Assasination Rogue/ Disc Priest
ShadowPriest/Mage
ShadowPriest/Sub Rogue

And my warrior struggles against:

Preg Paladin/Unholy DK. (can’t seem to kill anything)

The question is, What can we do against those comps? (Mostly the Feral/Disc, Assas/Disc, SP/Mage is what just destroys us where we have about a 5% win loss ratio against them).

I’m looking at our ArenaStats addon, and in 30 games we didn’t fight another Holy Paladin at all… no Mirror matches, nothing… just Feral/Disc, Assas/Disc, SP/Mage, SP/Rogue, anytime we got past 1950 to 2k

I’m a multi gladiator with a couple accounts on Retail, and I’ve been playing since Nov. 2004. My warrior has never played Arena before, but he’s very well geared… Shadowmourne and a full Wrathful set except for shoulders.

I’m just beyond frustrated healing these matches… I position as good as I can and attempt to keep him mobile, while trying to limit how much I can be CC’d but often I find myself litterally having to spam flash heals and holy shocks and barley being able to keep him at half HP with the incoming damage… I then I have try and avoid Ferals instant cyclones, and Disc priests constantly attemtping to chase me down and fear bomb me, whom seem beyond broken with a Feral, Rogue, Mage on their team. They have so much control 90% of the time I’m just sitting in CC’s or blanket silences, etc while my warrior gets melted.

Are we just getting unlucky with bad comps over and over… it seems that H.Pally/Warrior isn’t as great as everyone claims? Feral/Disc, Assas/Disc, SP/Mage seem to roll over H.Pally/Warrior without much trouble? Or are we just doing something super wrong? I don’t feel I have much I can even do to change the outcomes of the match as a Holy Paladin. I can only spam so many heals while rotating and trading Sac’s and defensives for their offensives and trying to stay max range to avoid as many CC’s as possible… just not sure what else I can even do?

But yeah, What can we do to push rating to 2k and get the shoulders so I don’t have to play this horribly balanced game anymore?

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a lot of those comps do good into arms/hpal, but idk dekel somehow like 81% WR with like over 1k games played warr/hpal

probably a pve gear diff

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feral/disc - try to reflect predatory swiftness procs (warrior), read the room, if you guys have a ton of pressure that predatory swiftness proc is coming for your warrior. If they have pressure that clone is coming for you the hpal.
It can get a little spookey against disc/feral bu they have no MS and you can generally top whoever coming out of a cc chain, so try not to over trade cds.
Also just avoid the disc priest like the plague one lose condition for a hpal vs a disc priest is eating a ton of mana burns, and anytime the disc runs at you generally not a bad idea for the warrior to swap.
judgement of justice on the feral as much as you can so they’re not running around like a race car 24/7.

ShadowPriest/Sub Rogue

get combat asap, even crusader aura for the first few seconds then swap to conc, someone needs to get combat, and generally you can blow physi sac to avoid a sap in the opener.

if you ever have to bubble into an spriest, someone needs to cover it generally with a hoj/belf/fear.

assa/disc
just focus on healing your warrior, generally once you get pressure rolling you’re fine. A warrior should generally eat a rogue if they try to post up, but they can generate a lot of pressure, sometimes a good way to top off your warrior is to conc aura+AM+holy light once or twice, then pressure should be more in your favor.

spriest/mage
pretty tough, I think generally try to kill the spriest, spam dispel warrior alot try to proc sacred cleansing.
also pro tip into spriest, if you ever have to trinket and they have silence up, generally trinket+AM with conc up is pretty good

not sure what ya’lls gear is lookin like, but gear in wrath is really really influential.

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Against Feral/Disc, we’re always on the backfoot. The feral opens on my warrior and the priest spam dispels him while I try to keep him up from the burst… the feral will then try and run for me to cyclone I try and stay as max range as I can and can see him coming, but depending on the map, I can’t out range it, and I end up having to trinket it most of the time.

We just have zero pressure with my warrior on the feral, and if we can somehow survive the druids coolers, we can get the priest almost oom, but then he gets an innervate from the druid and we’re back in circles again.

Most of the time I’m spamming heals just trying to keep my warrior alive from the druids damage and priest spam dispeling so I can’t keep a sacred shield up, etc.

I’m not sure what else I can personally do in the situation… I pillar him, I run around avoiding as much cc as I possibly can, and I only trinket cyclones as I can’t bubble out of them so the trink’s priority is cyclone.

Just doesn’t feel like we have any control over that team, and they have more burst and cc, plus offensive dispels… feels like a huge uphill battle.

It’s similar with Asssas Rogue / Disc, they just do insane unhealable damage and if I get CC’d for even a split second my warrior falls over?

I almost never get sapped, I will run in and long range judge and if I can’t make it I’ll try and sac my warrior to prevent me from sitting in it if they attack him, but can get dispelled unless I use raid sac… which I try to only use against big goes…

My Warrior always gets out dps’d by Ferals and Assasination rogues, they nearly double his damage…

As far as Gear, I’m in 90% Wrathful gear just missing the Helm and Shoulders (those are relentless) with the 258 Relentless Weapons…

My Warrior is and Orc in a full Wrathful set minus the Shoulders (he has Relentless), he has the 277 DBW trinket, Shadowmourne, etc.

We’re in some of the best gear, but he just can’t seem to do anything to Assas rogues, or Feral druids to pressure them so they’re not trying to CC the S out of me… I have to avoid the Ferals chasing me, the Priests chasing me while trying to stay max range to avoid the CC and also keep him alive while literally spamming Flash heals and Holy Shocks and it doesn’t even seem like his health is moving up…

Just beyond frustrating…

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Yeah, that comp is extremely frustrating for an H.Pally…

I do try and dispel as often as possible but with all the debuffs both the priest and mage place on us and the burst damage they do, it’s nearly impossible to keep it going for long… I have to dispel, hope I get a crit with holy shock so I can flash heal, because if not I have to juke the mage… which I usually do, but it’s still a blanket silence, so i have to dip (if I even can) behind a pillar and when I come back out I either get deep’d, feared, or some other nonsense or just have to heal a huge amount because of the damage they do or the game is over in the silence duration…

And yeah, I do that but sometimes I will trinket then AM with Concentration Aura up but they’ll silence me the second I trinket and I’ll be silenced WITH Aura Mastery on with Concentration Aura… (don’t ask me how that’s even possible, but happens A LOT)

EDIT: Yes, I’m sure I have Conc Aura on… I just want to make that clear, if they somehow silence you the split second before you trinket a Stun, the game will allow you to AM but won’t remove the silence and you’ll be sitting there silenced with AM on… Remember in Wrath you can’t trinket silences, so if they blanket silence you in the stun you just trinketed and AM you’ll still be silenced… which is complete BS

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Check out these 2 links, just watch how they play into the comps you mentioned,