Hey, Bae. Guess what. People can criticize Epic… -and- steam. They don’t have to be blindly loyal to one to criticize the other. Unless I’ve missed this blind loyalty you’re displaying, I’ve not seen it at all. Link some of the posts displaying it. I’m curious.
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yeah i don’t much approve of Steam either but again
Epic is literally selling data to China
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Yeah. Steam is a horrible service, as far as services go. I’ll still use it because it has the games I want for digital, because it’s relatively safe to use, because they have good sales, and because they have a refund policy (unlike epic).
If a better service comes along that can top Steam, more power to them, but so far that service isn’t Epic, or Origin, or Ubisoft, or Bethesda . net. GoG would be a potential contender, if it were -actual- competition since they don’t accept DRM games on their storefront. They’re more of a niche.
That’s not considering the labor issues I’ve heard out of CD Projekt Red, the guys who own GoG.
So, yes. Most of us are in fact aware of what steam does wrong, I’d suspect.
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They’re all gonna occupy a niche eventually I guess. Epic is carving out a platform by courting mid-tier developers. Various other launchers–Blizzard, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Origin, etc–are mostly single-publisher platforms for the richest companies. Gog offers the best product but will never be the biggest since so many developers won’t release a DRM-free product.
Steam might decline as a platform as the richest companies use their own launchers and the mid-tier developers get incentivized to move to Epic, so they’ll be the platform of choice for indie devs who want a storefront which is really accessible and provides a chance at getting a lot of eyes on their product. Trending games on steam increasingly seem to be indie games and, weirdly enough, “adult” visual novel style games, which I guess choose steam since nobody else is as loose with content guidelines.
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There are almost 2,500 posts in this thread, with the conversation about Epic vs Steam taking place more than a week ago. If you don’t want to believe there were people talking about their loyalty to Steam, I am perfectly OK with that.
But I am not doing footwork for this.
“People are doing this thing!” “Prove it.” “No.”
Okay. Good convo.
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“Go back through a bunch of posts for me, even though I could do it myself.”
“no.”
“Hah! Gottem. I have won.”
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Assertion without evidence is not proof. It’s entirely reasonable to ask for a reference.
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To be fair, you’re throwing an accusation around and then not backing it up.
Yes, the onus is on you to defend your stance, same as everyone else. If you don’t want to, that’s your prerogative, but you are giving the ‘win’ (such as it is) to the folks who called you out on your claims.
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And I am perfectly OK with that!
I’m just gonna sit over here buying games I want to play on whatever medium makes sense, and not stressing about weird capitalistic nationalism focused around certain companies. ._.
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I like Steam but mostly as a cloud service for games I own. I think that’s the big reason people find it difficult to switch; hard to move to a new platform when you have 10+ years of a catalogue with one service.
That said, I haven’t used the actual market there for a while. Most of my games I buy from other key sites like GreenManGaming or IndieGala or whatever. I don’t buy that many games these days, so I haven’t paid much attention to what’s going on with Valve and Steam as actual companies lately.
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Steam is old and busted and the only reason I use it is because of my 14 years of purchases and stuff, yeah. It makes you want to stick with it, but at the same time Steam is just like any other digital platform (as people have mentioned) where you are basically only renting a license. Any time Steam decides you’re cheating or otherwise up to no good they can ban you.
As an example I got banned by the Dying Light devs along with 15,000~ other people (IIRC that was the number) for a false positive because they activated VAC without telling anyone, basically. Stuff that would trigger VAC included mods, ini edits, etc. that were all fine and dandy as a single player/co-op game, but once they decided they wanted to start adding in competitive stuff…
That VAC ban lasted about a week and prevented playing on any number of Valve-hosted servers and player/community servers that utilized Steam’s VAC blacklist. A false positive ban from a game that didn’t even launch with VAC meant I couldn’t play half my other games as they were intended.
In the end it was Dying Light’s devs that reversed all those bans, not Valve, despite it being their platform and their software.
Wait, does this mean I win something for a change?! There’s a first for everything!
i’d post a gif of a cheering, happy cat here but I’m not trustworthy enough anymore.
Have a video of happy cats instead.
Edit → The video even has me smiling now. Darnit.
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I’m back from my second vacation. All because I made a pun in another thread.
Blizz has self-nerfed their humor.
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Pfft. I recently got done with my fifth, just since the forums changed. 11th or 12th total.
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…seriously?
Lemme guess, you got reported for ‘spamming/trolling’ when you weren’t doing any of that. And likely just got silenced because someone had a hissy fit and ran to Big Brother Blizz to make you shut up.
So it’s not my imagination. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Happened to you too?
All I can say is that given the overall subject matter of the post, and noting someone else committing the same alleged infraction and receiving no action, I’m more than a little suspicious. 
And really, not surprised. There’s a reason there was, on MG at least, a good-sized exodus from its forums to tumblr for a while.
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