What experience are you referring to? The kind where Alliance always runs roughshod over Horde? The kind where everything is a disorganized mess? The kind where trying to play with friends is too much to ask for? The kind where we discourage players from organizing if things aren’t working out for them?
Nah, premades only ruin the experience for those who are smoking their joints atop Olympus. Saying people shouldn’t be able to premade in CASUAL nonrated pvp is like being a union-buster. You just don’t want opposition.
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Not always, but this is just because of blizzards terrible balancing of racials. Which not to long ago actually horde was the absolutely dominant faction for like 2 and a half expansions in all aspects of the game.
I kind of like disorganized messes it allows for anything to happen keeping the experience fresh instead of the same scripted strats that you already know which are just decided by # of healers and ranged dps… those are snoozefests.
There are so many other modes in this game… that are explicitly designed for premades rated bgs,2s,3s all of which are more rewarding than random epics.
The design of the bgs themselves discourages that with how imbalanced they are.
Wintergrasp is the most flagrantly tilted bg i’ve ever seen especially if you get crushed at the sr fight which most teams against your premades probably do all of a sudden you have a team that was already stronger than you now rushing you with a 16 cata train.
I mean there really is nothing casual about what you guys bring into a completely random game. 25+ people all with full map knowledge full gear 11 healers all in discord and all buffed.
Isn’t that why premades dodge?
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Did you read the first post? The one that explains that premades cause their own faction to start epic battleground matches down 10-20 players when the gates open, causing them to almost surely lose the first team fight which for 3 out of 4 battlegrounds is the deciding factor in whether you win or lose?
Never mind that a premade vs a PUG is going to be an auto lose for the PUG, too.
Like, what part of this are you not understanding? Do you think that the gates should open 25-40? Do you think 30 player premades should face random PUGs? What is your actual argument here?
And as for faction imbalance, again, premades affect both sides: the opposite faction AND their own faction in a negative way for anyone not in the premade group.
And if you search my post history, you’ll find posts going back awhile where I specifically say that random and epic battlegrounds should just be cross faction at this point which would not only do a lot to solve the premade issues, but also just make them more balanced overall!
If you checked my post history, you’ll also notice I have said multiple times that I think a new 30v30 (or whatever number works) premade epic battleground queue should be added so 30 friends can queue up to fight against a premade of 30 without having to go through the tedium of syncing queues.
What, exactly, do you disagree with here?
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