World Revamp for 11.0 to Justify Classic Cata?

I’m wondering if part of the reason for the revamp desire for the future of WoW is to justify cata+ era azeroth having a reason to exist split off in classic wow.

Is Cata Classic even happening? (Sorry if I missed the news.)

Also, I doubt that the devs will make the same mistaking again of overwriting the current zones. It seems like they would just make different phases to allow access to different versions of the same zone.

Nope, that would be too big of a risk OP.
The desire for revamp is merely to bring the game up to snuff with the times graphic wise.

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I don’t think a world revamp would be worth the resources unless Blizzard plans a massive marketing campaign for new players.

Classic Cata doesn’t seem to be moving the needle for anyone. I loved Cata, some of my best times in WoW were in that expansion but I wouldn’t play it again.

Depends how far and fast they do the revamp but we have lots of time and I imagine any ‘revamp’ may be hyped at blizzcon and when we get closer to 11.0. I think me as a ‘not new player’ would welcome a revamp if done right and I think it can be well worth the resources.

Ion specifically said that they won’t - when/if they do another world revamp they will ensure that you can switch it back.

Personally I’m more interested in the world being updated lore-wise.

The planet being locked into “the day after Deathwing attacked” forever is awkward. Like, that tornado in Westfall has been going for over a decade now. What kind of weather pattern is fueling that thing.

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I would enjoy new quests and zones in the old world as well. The problem is the largest player density in a new expansion will be the higher level zones. It happened back then and I don’t see that it would change.

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I wanted that for a long time, I know people will be funneled to the new zones and will only want to raid or w.e… but it’s a shame this game doesn’t utilize the world. It would be nice.

Cata is firmly into retail territory already. Not sure what rehashing it would accomplish regardless.

Seems by now that the Dwafs should have fixed that dam so the Wetlands would no longer be flooded.

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I don’t see a point in doing Classic: Cataclysm. To me, that was the end of the “classic era” and the beginning of modern WOW. The whole point, imo, of Classic was to go back and see the world before they destroyed it… and of course play the game like it used to be.

Plus, in an interview Ion already addressed a potential revamp:

Next year will mark WoW’s 20th anniversary. That would seem an opportune time for Blizzard to revamp WoW’s original continents, the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor, much in the way it did with 2010’s Cataclysm expansion. Hazzikostas said an old world revamp is something that is “likely to happen” in the future, but that the team would learn lessons from Cataclysm, which was criticized for essentially deleting parts of 2004-era WoW, and use modern solutions to preserve currently existing pieces of the game were it to become a reality.

To me, it sounds very much like they would take the approach of what they did for Silithus and Darkshore - layer the new version on top of the old version and let players swap between them via the Bronze dragon lady.

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They sent out surveys for Cata Classic similar to how they sent out WOTLK Classic surveys prior to testing.

I remember and was one of the recipients of said survey. We don’t know the results, but I can certainly say my answer was “Not interested” in regards to a Classic: Cataclysm.

Whether I’m in the majority or the minority will remain unknown until we get an announcement. My guess is we’ll know at BlizzCon this year.

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Well there is one way it would make sense. They go ahead with Classic Cata, then more Classic expansions through Classic BfA then they start a 3rd thread with Ultra Classic.

So we would have

  • Retail expansion 13
  • Classic BfA
  • Ultra Classic World of Warcraft (1st MMO prior to expansions)

Then

  • Retail expansion 14
  • Classic Shadowlands
  • Ultra Classic Burning Crusade

etc.

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I spent so much time in Cata leveling alts. I only had two max characters in Wotlk. By the end of Cata, I had 14.

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wasnt Cata after the end of the classic era?
Maybe its just me but i always thought of Vanilla, BC and WoTLK as the classic expansions, once Cata. hit, that began the new age of WoW

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Cata is when vanilla stopped being vanilla. At that point you may as well play retail and stop behaving like some sort of hipster.

I would say it was, since Cata is when they revamped the world. That to me is the big thing that separates it from the classic expansions.

Nothing has been said in stone currently other than just some random leaks say you will but I think we won’t know what’s really going to happen until Blizz Con to be honest.

If it were up to me, retail should be reworked to appeal to classic players, rather than split them off.

In particular:

  • An old season that runs in parallel to the current xpac’s season with its own m+ score and new cosmetics. Think full raid tiers in chronological order running in parallel to current tier.
  • Fold classic/tbc/wotlk into retail as special realms if you can’t do the former or people REALLY want to be restrictive about it all.

BTW, mixing old dungeons with new into one m+ season was a mistake. Split the new and old into separate parallel running seasons with their own scoring and rewards.