World First race

Yup. So why not point at it? In anyway? I’m not saying they should send them money, or provide deals, or host their own stream of it. I’m just saying that they should in some way point to it on their launcher. They used to acknowledge other streamers for their contributions to the community. I see no reason they can’t go “hey, for those interested in seeing what bleeding edge progression looks like, check these guys out!”

Also, I’d say that methods stream and asmongolds stream are quite different in their content and character.

I don’t get the tension here though.
Because you can tell pretty early on whose gonna win, its hardly neck and neck.

Really? Both Limit and Method have been on jaina for similar lengths of time… what’s your definition of neck and neck?

No one really cares anymore.

Oh look, blizzard intentionally overturned an encounter to stretch out a race for “free” advertising from method and it’s streamers.

That’s just tinfoil hatting now.

They are invested in it. They actively spy on the top guilds. This is done for two main reasons:

  1. Top-tier players are friends with Blizzard staff and vice-versa. It’s like watch your friends compete. This is not the case for everyone, however.

  2. Adjustments are always needed. Bugs happen every single patch. They want to make sure a boss is mathematically possible. While it may only take 2 weeks for most tiers, most guilds will spend 2-4 months inside the raid. “If Method can kill it in X ilvl, and we’re X+10, we should be able to do this.” But it’s mostly for bugs. I recall Durumu bugs being particularly harsh in MOP, it was already a tough fight and when mechanics straight up didn’t work…those should probably get fixed immediately.

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Not relating to world first , i am talking about MDI on what Metro was on about…you can pretty much predict who will win in the first 5 - 10 mins and you will have to hope somebody ahead of the curve screws up :rofl:

Ah gotcha.

Not even. If your expansion has been tanking number wise and you’re going to be able to gain millions of dollars in free advertising would you take it?

The answer is, yes.

The number of impressions made by method alone this last week over Twitter, Facebook, IG, twitch is astounding. They pulled a game that was halftime barely breaking top 10 worldwide in views to full-time number 2-3 spot on twitch for a week.

That type of exposure on twitch alone is huge. Bring that into how a streamer with hundreds of thousands of Twitter followers can tweet out, check me out and then their followers retweet. That’s not tinfoil, that’s how modern advertisement works and game companies don’t shell out thousands of dollars of game time, game keys, early access to streamers and YouTubers for nothing. In return they’re getting thousands of impressions for free of next to it.

But it’s a double edged sword. Do something like that too much and you get TOS, and the entire community up in arms. 1-2 weeks is the typical expected tier length nowadays anyway.

I would be fine if they did so because its their launcher and they can use it however they want as far as I am concerned. I am not arguing against your idea but I believe that this thread was just one more “here’s why Blizzard is wrong and stupid and should do what I think instead” thread. OP is not a big fan of the current decision makers and this was just one more jab.

Its bad enough, imo, that people try to dictate gameplay decisions for Blizzard; now some are also trying to dictate marketing decisions as well.
You are here just stating an opinion and there’s no problem with that. OP started the thread, why shouldn’t you add your thoughts? My issue is more about why someone felt the need to start the thread in the first place.

I agree but the viewership for method seems even bigger than A’s so they are already drawing more people to the game if the theory about streams being free advertising is accurate.

Plus, you want the link in the launcher to attract new players but would potential new players have the launcher? No. Not unless they were already interested so then it cannot be said that the stream brings new interest.

Blizzard is dumb, this is the same company that refused to acknowledge Icefrog’s Dota and dumb enough to sue Valve for it, they lost ofc. :rofl:

Anytime you have a contest like this there’s a huge amount of legal things that have to happen, contracts people need to sign. Could you get sued over losing WF because you ran into a bug and other teams caught up? I don’t know. I’m no lawyer. But I feel like there could be some legal challenges.

Why does Blizzard need to be involved in a community event? Blizzard could probably get sued if they put on such an event due to guilds not sleeping and getting sleep depraved among other things.

Ummmm why is this important during a World First race? This can all be said before the raid is out or after or maybe nothing at all since I don’t recall them ever doing this throughout all of WoW.

I would expect a hotfix in the next few days. I’m assuming that players will amnipulate lockouts to clear early bosses for more gear again before attempting jaina again this evening.

I would think it would be pretty easy to draft a document for every competitor to sign that is very short and simply a blanket statement saying that Blizz cannot be held financially responsible for any technology issues.

Also you have to keep in mind the era we live in, where esports is so prolific. I mean Blizz themselves already has esports personnel on staff. There are other games like LOL which have competitive matches throughout the vast majority of the year. There are people whose entire job it is to make things professional video games happen. I would think things like uncovering a bug would be the simplest.

In LOL how they address it is that they make it known each week which patch will be played for the upcoming week. So everyone is able to practice on that patch as it is, bugs and all. The only time anything else needs to happen is when it’s individual case bug and not one that is inherent to the game. Then they get a match restart. So all you need to do is have a piece of paper with 1 line on it saying you can’t sue them if something like that happens (since you can’t restart a match in this case)

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These 2 reason alone is why I do not think blizzard should ever get more involved then they are and leave it a community thing.

  1. Would just lead to finger pointing and accusations of people thinking something scrupulous went on. It is an unnecessary drama that wouldn’t be needed, also if blizzard were to sponsor people who work for blizzard would have to worry the repercussions of speaking to their friend in said guild if anything ever came of it.

  2. Again a bunch of finger pointing or accusations of blizzard hotfix this so this guild got this advantage etc. Not only that to sponsor and event you need to make sure everything in working order bug fixing in the middle of it would highly ridiculed.

I believe it just better to stay something the community holds without blizzard hand in it and I feel like if blizzard did put more of a hand in it, I feel like people wouldn’t be as invested as some are in it.

Mythic KJ took 3 weeks at 16 hours a day