World bosses in phase 4

Easiest solution to me seems that they will have a new Incursion-esque event, maybe just a raid, where you fight them. Could also be added as a weekly quest at each incursion and you find them inside the portals.

I personally love world bosses, but they don’t work with layers. May as well put them into a raid.

they needa make the world bosses in the nightmare incursion like further in

World bosses are another great example of why personal loot would be a fantastic add to Classic WoW. Especially in the “modernized” context of SOD where gearing tanks/heals will hopefully be possible through various routes at 60.

Would also eliminate the endless spam of these HR runs and instead promote people just continually running instances. Build in some bad luck protection for items that drop 100% (engi notes, pearl, etc.).

Ignorant. Sounds like you didn’t get to experience it. It was very fair and accessible. It was us against the Horde, not against each other.

The Horde was much less organized and internally competitive, which is why we almost always came out on top.

Alliance side, if you followed the TGA/Phoenix Coalition rules and weren’t from a black listed guild it was not exclusive whatsoever. You just had to get lucky enough to be in the tag raid and roll well against 17 other Warriors on Kazzak (which I did :sunglasses:).

Grobb was and remains the premier PvP server. It also had the best inter guild dynamics and drama. Not sure why you’d paint that as a negative, as those experiences are far more memorable than the gameplay (lmao @ “gaming”).

Some people can’t get over the RP tag.

You aren’t reading what I said because you want to be right, because its so painfully obvious that you need to form raids.

Which is exactly what I said

Youre trying to talk like I gatekept myself when I actually did them and participated in all the warring and stuff. They’re just a bad and outdated design, and you love it and thats okay.

I am saying the requirements that it took to participate are stupid, and exclusive. Especially on a seasonal server. Why not have an attunement quest where the end goal is summoning a world boss.

I hope the Dragons are left in.

Imagine. You’re just doing your loops with the bois and BOOM! Emeriss spawns ‘right there’. And now you all got aggro and trying to run away results in being teleported back to him. :muahahahahaha!:

This would completely eliminate everything that makes World bosses interesting.

Simply don’t play Classic if you don’t like old school design :man_shrugging:t4:

If this is the only aspect of Classic you don’t like, these bosses are entirely optional.

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Yeah and they are a great sidepiece in classic era, because the design and accessibility of them is stupid. You can like part of something and not have to accept everything wholly as good or quality.

Sure maybe if they up the spawn rate for a seasonal server, but the emergent gameplay around the world bosses was only for a time and then dies off, because no one cares eventually.

You didn’t really make a point :person_shrugging: but appreciate the contribution

I feel they will do like weekly world bosses or something and that incursion will become like a raid type situation for a week and they’ll rotate bosses even the blasted lands one

Uhuh.

We were competing over world bosses well into P5. Empyrean Demolisher was game BiS for the premier dps class.

World bosses are a unique piece of content in Classic and shouldn’t be removed because you don’t wanna put in the effort to compete for them. They’re not exclusive. You have as much opportunity to work with your server to get tags as anyone else does. They’re peak server community content.

That said, layers completely ruin them, so I’d rather them not be introduced in a lesser form.

Sure. Whatever you say.

We both know that in the history of gaming this is a heavily sus statement.

“We make the rules and you follow them or else. Keep in mind creepy Bob may blacklist your guild if he’s turned down for ERP rudely.”

Are you a creepy Bob?

Grobb got a little weird. Not memorable in a good way. I think I ran into a person after some pvp (they helped) who yelled in chat that I just emoted thanks instead of a personalized message. It went on for another 30 min where they threatened to blacklist me as not a real RPer or some garbage.

I’ll stick to the normal servers.

PS - have ran into a lot of creepy Bob types on RP servers. Some are just jerk Bob’s too. One guy tried to have me kicked from an alliance in DAoC because I disagreed with him publicly on the forums… I didn’t know him from Adam lol.

Are you self aware enough to recognize how ridiculous this strawman is? Apropos of completely nothing?

The blacklisted guilds were pariahs on the server like the edgelord/4chan guilds (such as the one the CA senator called Blizzard out for) and players who tried to grief the Alliance, steal tags while being in and benefiting from the alliance, etc.

You have no idea. It got crazy weird in the best and most memorable ways. The ratting in the AQ event was incredible, and the memes that followed legendary.

Just tried to find you my fave piece of Grobb lore, which was an edit of Secret of Nimh or something with the heroes of the alliance fighting hordes of Obsidian Council and Final Boss rats in the AQ tunnels, but it’s been set to private :cry:

There’s this at least (some harsh language, discretion advised): https://www.reddit.com/r/Grobbulus/comments/cwagcn/grobbulus_rep_explains_situation_on_final_boss/

You missed out. I pity you.

I will say that Classic Grobb is MASSIVELY different from Grobb since TBC.

Funny part about that is there is a ruby sanctum area unfinished within the classic database.

Might work for that.

I’ll give you this, I joined in late TBC and I was weirded out. I don’t like when people act like every minor thing is potentially a character ruining event. Did you get that herb bob wanted? Now he hates you and he’ll make sure you don’t get in his guild.

Speaking of Bob,

I’ve played mmorpgs for a long time. RP servers are so their best nerds being nerds. At their worst it becomes a pervert den and a home for people with social or ego issues. It’s creepy and a bit smothering.

It’s very relevant. The weird people do come out of the woodwork on RP servers. I don’t know how to describe it better.

So you’re prejudiced.

World Bosses being instanced 40-man content could be pretty cool.

I think 40-man should have a place to exist but it should not be the main progression content. I enjoy the idea of Azuregos, Kazzak, and the Dragons of Nightmare being content that is designed for 40 players while still keeping the main raids like MC, BWL, and Naxx as 20-mans.

If AQ40 stays a 40-man I guess that wouldn’t be the end of the world. BWL and Naxx should absolutely be made into 20-mans though.

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Yep against Mongolians too!

World bosses have to be completely re worked in order for them to be playable by anyone other than the giga sweat lords who would normally control all the spawn locations and prevent anyone else from getting the kill.