Worgen and Goblin monks... Again

Posted in general but hopefully this gains traction here.

Worgen Monks

Introduction:

With patch 8.25 Worgen are getting model updates. And this is an opportunity to also correct a mistake from the past. That mistake is, not having worgen monks.

Justification:

Much like how worgen druids start as harvest witches and then become druids, I feel worgens can start as brawlers (after all Queens rules boxing aka modern boxing was invented in England) and become monks via the wall collapse and meeting a pandaren (just a random trainer in the second village players enter). This is also supported by Darius Crowley being a brawler during the prison break. He literally beats down alpha worgen with his hands and a stick.

Counter Claims:

Time Locked Zone, This has never made sense due to both Bloodelf and Draenei starting zone also being time locked but their monk trainers have been added after the fact. Some people falsely claim those zones have been updated but this is sadly not true. In the Draenei zone for instance the monk trainer “Mojo Stormstout” is quoted as saying “I’m just walking along, when suddenly
BAM mimcks and explosion with his hands when the exodar crashed”. Monks officially have be retconned into Draenei lore from the start.

h ttps://wow.gamepedia.com/Mojo_Stormstout

The same thing occurs with “Pao” for the blood elf’s. A retcon to make monks possible for those time locked zones.

The monk animations do not work on worgen models. The thing is anyone who knows about rigging a model can quickly tell you that 8 bit Mario can even be set up to do monk animations. Besides the work is already done in game. Just us an image swap or a potion of illusion into a worgen and see for yourself. Not to mention anyone can use in game file model viewer to see for themselves.

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3j_KObvj18

Monks are all about peace and the light/good side can’t be rage/cursed.

This is countered by the quests for becoming a worgen. You literally have to finish the quest that makes you at peace with yourself. You control the beast. The only reason in lore that you turn into a worgen is because the form is superior in combat vs a human body. This is to make you (the worgen) more combat effective.

The quest “neither human nor beast” literally says “Drink from the waters of Tal’doren and make peace with yourself” as a reward you gain mastery over the beast and change on command. No longer a raging beast.

h ttps://www.wowhead.com/quest=24593/neither-human-nor-beast

Monks are only good and worgen are cursed evil.

Again this is not true. Monks are balanced. They are both good and bad. Light and Dark. Good and Evil. And in equal parts. In the closed testing for MoP monks we had 2 dark chi and 2 light chi and we had to maintain balance with them to use our moves. Black out kick (dark chi) Rising Sun kick (light chi) etc. This was dropped for a more practical system we have today but the names where kept to remind all monks we are both dark and light chi
 we are balance.

Fast forward to 35minutes and 22 seconds

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVSiFXI0FH0

In closing we can all agree this is an opportunity for more player choice. Wrogen and Goblin monks should have always been possible and this new update with heritage armour is a chance to make that happen.

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Hope so. I’ve wanted them both for a long time.

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Worgen fists of fury - the ultimate backscratcher.

Agreed they should join us - pure nonsense for them having been left out in the cold for so long.

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I’ve wanted goblin monk since Mists of Pandaria.

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So glad to see people have some bloody sense on this topic.

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I think every race should be able to be a monk honestly, just like warrior and hunter. Any person can find some inner balance/peace and learn to fight with fists.

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I don’t see why not Granted

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How can NElves be monks? Wandering monk in their lands? Isn’t that where Worgen go
?

Though I would love Worgen monk, I sort of wouldn’t too; I already have a Pandaren monk, and Worgen Warrior, but if they made Worgen able to go monk I’d have to reroll because that would be sweet! :stuck_out_tongue: And those other two toons would just have to be dismantled :wink:

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You.

I like you.

Hands the dwarf a complimentary Kaja Cola Vintage

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As much as I’d love to play a worgen monk, I don’t know if the lore works right
 The key to a monk is inner peace and balance of serenity. Worgen are by their vary nature a chaotic mess and can only barely keep hold of their sanity thanks to the Scythe of Elune.

If they added Worgen monks
 hell yeah I’d play one, but I can totally understand the super-lore nerds crying ‘no’.

You didn’t read the original post, did you?

I only ask because it clearly shows the actual quest and includes a link to the quest, that literally proves all worgens achieve inner peace and mastery over the beast in them.

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I dont really care, theres enough races for monks to pick from. Other classes dont have as many options as we do. We dont need another 2.

“STOP LIKING WHAT I DON’T LIKE, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!”

That’s you right now.

Sit down, Oldman.

I support goblin/worgen monks.

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huh? you don’t make any sense, I just expressed my opinion.

amen sister

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Choosing to be a monk to counterbalance the darker element of either race’s nature fits well thematically, honestly.

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Then orc shouldnt be a monk

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Every single class can be a hunter and warrior.

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Blizzard. I know you read the monk forum every hour. Make it happen.

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Yeah that pains me when I see a gnome hunter or gnome priest. Tauren paladins still make me gag.