Wonder if Nathanos will ever get any depth

I would rather they kill Jaina or Tyrande off, but don’t see either of them going any time soon especially how Jaina mary sued her way out of being killed by the Horde Players who were gunning for her.

For Instance Dark Shore my character along with Nathanos and them clearly had Tyrande on the roaps then she pulls a mary sue and survives it… I mean sheesh leaves a worst bitter taste than anything Sylvanas has done.

I actually like the character, n the sea of characters he is different. Please, lets not kill off another Horde NPC. There are going to be none left at this rate in a few more expansions. Then they are going to have to create new iconic NPCs no one will accept.

Anduin is the character that’s always good. Always right. Always saint. Always always. Even in Cataclysm he just makes his dad (Ruler with experience) to change his mind cause he’s apparently wrong.

He’s right even during Before the Storm, alive and undead can coexist (Calia ruined everything, not Anduins fault)

When he was wrong? Did he ever had any flaws? Sylvanas will never reach that mary sue level. Even by breakin universal laws she can’t be that RIGHT as Anduin.

He was wrong about garrosh to the point his body was shattered as well as from the begging we knew he was meant to be a great leader one day. He has some minor issues with his development but at the end he is still weak at fighting but strong with the light and his convictions, his only equivlent would be Arthas he could have easily become another Arthas but instead his story is the unique one that wants true peace but doesnt know how to quite get there. As well im sure something is going to happen to make him be more like his father for an expansion because his story needs a bit of a twist with a learning moment.

Nathanos reminds me of Professor Snape.

Snape thing is too sad and edgy. Modern world can’t handle sad and edgy

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That (aligning with the Horde) does not track with her story in “Before the Storm”. She is seeking a middle way for the Forsaken and their surviving families that aligns with the light and rather than either faction. Pursuing that is what got her undead at the hands of Slyvanas.

the whole thing is fun, because SOME of the undead were not satisfied with meeting result. And Sylvanas comforted them by being truly forsaken. And then they stole our queen from us

I think you mean your queen abandoned you. You know, the whole “you are nothing” moment.

the horde is nothing. As a whole (looking at Baine licking Anduin boots in 8.3 in stormwind). But me, as myself, Sylvanas follower is being right all along - she will free us from mortal chains.

You do realize that WORLD comes before Warcraft, right? Keeping half of the playerbase from interacting with the other is just as bad for the game. We’re seeing those repercussions in how much (or little) we see the Alliance presence in endgame content. Now I know that endgame isn’t everyone’s goal, but if you’re Alliance and want to mythic raid then you’re better off transferring to Horde. And that is STUPID.

Keep the stupid factions and the pointless faction war, but for the love of all that’s holy we need to have cross faction grouping.

Oh yeah, and just because something has always been that way, doesn’t mean it’s the best way. It just means that it’s the status quo and some people don’t like change.

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Yeah, I don’t need him to bow down to my character - but give respect. It’s just dumb that everyone else seems to acknowledge your accomplishments and Nathanos just insults you. Who would put it up with that?

And Kadgar was unique, but he got annoying too.

Ironically, after hearing Nathanos for like the 5th time I realized how much I prefer Kadgar… which is a sad thing.

Imo that means free everyone in death correct? If everyone was dead we’d all be undead meaning… no wait to crazy did Sylvanas want the horde and alliance to dissolve and become one ghostly faction of death… oh man. Sylvanas followers want the Horde and Alliance to join forces just as undead instead of being alive and doing it.

why? there’s like 6 millions of player that are as good as you. I just wan’t to be treated like majority

That’s not the case. The “Champion of the Horde” storyline caters as if you’re above all others. It doesn’t address as a raid group…

While I agree I don’t like being the “champion above all others”, I also don’t like the RP in this game. If the game identifies you as the champion, and then one guy keeps insulting you, that’s just disrespect.

And, congrats, you want to be treated like the majority. That doesn’t mean I want to be insulted continually by some boot-licker.

Jimmy Hoffa depth sounds about right.

Yeah. Just completely forget about the fact that Ion said at Blizzcon that the factions are inherent to the game, and it doesn’t really work without them. ::eyeroll::

Yeah, because Ion is right about everything, right?

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That’s a ridiculous statement. It’s not “right” or “wrong”. It’s the fact that he has direction over the game. If he says that’s the way it is and will continue to be then whining about it isn’t going to change a thing.

He also has a valid point. Remove the factions and you take away the basis for game content like battlegrounds and PvP. There has been and will always be “versus” content in this game and factions are the fundamental basis supporting it.

I wasn’t the one implying that Ion was right, you were. Also, that wasn’t “whining” lol. If you think it was, then you had best go look up the definition. I’m not really calling for the dissolution of your precious factions, I want cross faction grouping. When you lock half of the player base away from the other half when it comes to endgame content, then you’re going to have the problems that we’re having now. It’s only gotten worse over the last couple of expansions. Being Alliance I would think you would know this better than most.

PvP and battlegrounds can still work with cross faction grouping, lol. There are other games that manage it just fine. There are many creative ways to work in the story/narrative that would still support conflict.