WoD > Shadowlands AND BfA?

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Yes, I said it. It’s my opinion that WoD is better than Shadowlands and BfA.

I’m not saying WoD was without many, many flaws, but flying around the zones today, I feel like it had so much more effort put into it than the last two expansions. If the patches hadn’t dropped off and left us with little to do later in the expansion, it could’ve been extraordinary.

-Zones are huge. Like, massive, by comparison to Shadowlands, or BfA. Intricate, expansive, full of things to see. Just look at the Temple of Karabor! Holy crap, what a piece of art!

-The much maligned garrisons, for all their flaws, gave us a lot of interesting depth. We collected characters from all over Draenor to join our garrison, and had lots of things to interact with / do / build. It could’ve been more social, absolutely, but it was still a great concept.

-Rares galore! And I’m not talking BfA / Shadowlands rares that sat idly and dropped slivers of Animerite. There were all kinds of cool rares that held cool toys or cosmetics, AND added flavor text / lore!

-Bodyguards! Am I the only one who thought selecting a bodyguard to fight with you, and leveling their “trust level” up was cool? And they weren’t limited to what class you were, you had choice!

-The story! No, not the time-traveling crap. The “little” stuff. Draenei learning to live on a foreign world. Rangari explaining the perils of the wilds. Yrel’s arc. Life in Nagrand. The many, many flavor-text stories that actually added a sense of life and depth to this world.

I know it gets a lot of hate, and it needed a lot of work, but compared to the last two expansions, it honestly felt unique, and like a labor of love.

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My understanding is no although i wasnt there in WoD

Lack of content is worse than bad content.

Also obligatory selfie cam patch.

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Okay, okay. The selfie cam thing was absolutely stupid cringe. One point to the anti-WoD crowd.

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WoD felt like the last true Warcraft minus cosmic battles. It has a strong connection for me to the old XPs. Now, everything feels loosely based.

It’s as if suddenly we made a left turn at Albuquerque and then went warp speed

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No, WoD is still the bottom of the barrel for exp, half the exp was cut, the only thing to do in the game was pvp or raid, if you did not do those things, you literally had nothing to do. Classes felt at the worst because a lot of classes ended up getting gutted or changed randomly for no real reason other then blizzard wanting to change them.
we lost a garrison level, we lost out on a raid and sub zone, we lost out on 2 major cities.
We had a major content patch that was the selfie camera, pepe the brid and twitter integration.

Sayin taht wod was anything but the worst exp is rose tinted goggles, BFA comes up right behind it because again, that was another exp that blizzard basically abandoned half the feature of the EXP half way through.SL is in a race for second place though.

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That’s your opinion and that is fine.

Your wrong about bfa, jury is out on SL. But bfa had a .3 patch and a .1 with more than a selfie camera. That alone makes it better.

To be fair 6.0 was incredible. I absolutely loved wod at launch. If we compare 6.0 to 8.0, 9.0, and even 7.0 it was far superior.

But late game is where it matters. 8.0.5 had more content than 6.1 did. And we got 8.1 and 8.2 and 8.3 were good. Honestly people give BFA way too much crap it was a good expac. Not the best but not the worst.

Can’t comment on SL yet, the fact we are a year in and JUST got 9.1 is not a good sign. And there was a brief period I quit before 9.1. So its pushing it so far. 9.2 and 9.3, and the .5 patches will play a large part in my opinion. If I have to wait until next year though? Idk man.

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Best expac ever! 7sec queue times on random battlegrounds all expansion long. Equal ilvl honor and conquest gear! WoD was for me, my most favorite expansion.

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The selfie camera and garrison jukebox are greater than any feature added after WOD.

:wink:

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Well, having a wrong opinion is okay when it comes to what is a good expansion or not.

-pats-

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I have heard that WoD had some of the best PvP so I can’t blame you for enjoying it.

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For me wod and bfa were both better than shadowlands is currently. As to which of those 2 are better it changes for me.

While wod lacked content I feel that what it did have was a pretty good quality. The leveling was and is still one of if not the best in the game. I pvp a lot casually so it was great for me to be able to just jump in with alts and gear up quick. And from what my friends say hellfire and foundry were some of the best raids.

Bfa for me sucked at launch. I think it was a month in when I stopped playing current and mainly mount farmed and did old content. But 8.2 was a very good patch imo. Lots to do and farm though fu being on ground mounts in nazj lol.

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I disagree. I’ll take no dinner vs a plate of 2 week old rancid and moldy raw pork.

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WoD didn’t have a whole lot going for it, but at least it had a lil something going for it lol.

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For people who were into PvP there was no lack of content.

The selfie cam patch was the first time I ever stepped into a raid of any sort. I still have characters who use that title. Did you get the achievement or was it beneath you? I understand it’s still available.

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All 3 where bad. But overall i rank wod higher then bfa or sl.

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I’ll be honest. I think these three Xpacs - WoD, BFA, and Shadowlands are all competing for worst turd. I cannot definitively say WoD is the worst. Sure the others had more content, but WoD’s content was good outside of the twitter/selfie patch.

I personally had more fun in WoD. Personal experiences though.

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Well, your opinion is honestly kinda wrong.

WoD was objectively a terrible expansion. At least Shadowlands is actually trying to deliver some sort of content (and succeeding to some degree, albeit a lot slower than it should).

WoD was 20% of an expansion. The amount of content that got cut from it could double the size of any other expansion.

One of WoD’s two “major content patches” was so cringeworthily lackluster that even SL’s most fervent haters will even admit that neither 9.0 nor 9.1 comes even close to the level of failure that was WoD’s infamous Patch 6.1, which delivered the Selfie Camera and Twitter integration as its two major selling points.

This comparison is so heavily flawed that I don’t even know when to start:

First off, WoD is basically what happens when you pay full price for literally nothing. Imagine paying $40 for that piece of pork and then sitting at the table waiting for it to be cooked and served before you just get fed up and leave.

Second off, SL is hardly rancid and moldy pork. It’s basically just a slightly above-average pork chop; it’s good, the chef at least tried to make it good, but whether or not it’s worth the price you had to pay to eat it varies heavily.

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(Also, just gotta say, WoD did many things wrong in my book, but you mentioned the zones. One thing that doesn’t get talked about much, perhaps I’m in the minority but, WoD achieved the unthinkable: It made Nagrand, a fan favorite, BORING. I was so HYPED to explore Oshu’gun, but the quests in there were so boring)

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There is only one thing wrong with shadowlands and in the long term it wont matter.
Its that we had to wait 8 months for new content. No matter how good a patch is, 8 months is too long. Youll either complete it all or get sick of it and quit.

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I replied to this - and only this:

And no, I don’t believe that to be true. Please note that I did not include one single expansion in that reply, it was a response to a specific statement I disagree with.

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