So, from 1 week into WoDs launch the loudest complaint was there was nothing to do at max level. This was loud and clear way back when Highmaul and BRF were current and we weren’t even close to the 15 month drought.
So, I was trying to think of a great expansion like Wrath. And how the things to do at max level would compare. Many people played hours on end without running out of things to do.
And I could only really come up with…daily hubs? And farming ore/herbs?
Is that the big secret content WoD missed?
The daily chores?
Am I forgetting something major?
Dungeons
Raids
BGs
Arena
Large PvP area
World bosses
MoP had:
-Meaningful rewards from rares to farm. Something nothing before had, nor nothing after.
-The last really good iteration of class design/balance. <-- Important
-The varied dailies.
-The farm.
WoD had… 1 bar filling apexis daily and grunt jobs at your garrison.
If you did not like raiding or PvP, that was pretty much nothing.
Wod launch was fine, dungeons and dailies got useless after patch 1 (even dailies were pretty bad because could only get 3 pieces of gear that were mostly useless). No new content was made to replace those. Was there even a world boss for BRF patch?
No new dungeons during the expansion… Atleast there was m0 by the end.
And we had only 3 raid tier, really a low effort expansion.
I liked wod for many reason but the amount of content isn’t one.
thats true many toys were OP af and very fun to hunt and they worked in every continent.
Strongly disagree. It was full of homogenization and many specs were just bad or terrible overpowered. Basically some classes ad to press 4 buttons to do the same one does with 1. It was also hard to tell which spec classes were.
Wasnt a plus in my book, quite the contrary.
And WOD had garrisons.
I think mop was just better developed and had better story than wod and even scenarios not being super popular they were better used.
WoD was just abandoned.
I also miss blizzard risking new things.
Honestly this forum would hate Wotlk if it launched right now lol.
Ya thats my feeling about wod.
Had nothing to do but at least i had an absurd amount of gold that let me play till bfa for free. It is the expansion i bought every mount and mog i wanted lol.
Well basicly because I don’t think the majority of people disliked the first patch of wod. Or thought that there was much lack of content (in the first patch).
What made the WotLK dailies amazing was one simple aspect. They weren’t required.
When something you don’t enjoy doing is required to do something else you enjoy. That required something becomes a chore that you try to avoid. When that something is not required, you might do it just to kill the time.
I think if WoD had wq’s like Legion/BfA, it would have been much better received. I enjoyed raiding, pvp’ing, and playing alts in that expansion, so I never really felt that there was a lack of things to do.
I actually feel more bored with this expansion, due to the poor state of pvp, lacking class design, and having no desire to pursue these excessive rental systems.
As long as your class is fun to play, “chores” don’t really feel like chores if the method of interaction is fun.
I think part of the issue there, and by extension the issue with BfA, is resources went towards these one-and-done gimmick features that just weren’t compelling. I don’t think people really cared for Garrisons because it was the creep of mobile game design into WoW, and no one cares about IE or Warfronts either.
More effort really needs to go into making the core of the way you interact with the world (class design) fun and compelling before stacking on more stuff that will just get abandoned in an expansion gets a focus.
Does anyone really care about Covenants or what you get from them when we all know that just like Garrisons, Class Halls/Legendaries and the Heart of Azeroth they’ll just be abandoned and unusable in another expansion? Because that’s kind of the other problem. I can be invested in my character, their transmogs and mounts etc. because those are there forever. I don’t really care about [expansion gimmick] when it’s just going to disappear.
I didn’t play WoD so just speaking based off observation but I think they just were behind on content 'cause they spent too much time redesigning a full zone so a lot of content suffered.
This was also the raid or die design mentality…
And partly seems like it was when they tried to do an expansion a year which failed miserably.
I can’t stand dailies.
It might of been new and fun several years ago but it feels so just boring and dated now… lacking any creativity.