With near universal approval can we get a response about dual spec please

The group forming tool being added soon should honestly completely eclipse the need for dual spec as a group forming benefit.

For clarity, I’m referring to the TBC-based group-forming tool that already existed in real TBC that they are “improving” the UI of for TBCC.

It’s definitely a lot easier than spamming or looking at a constant feed of caps-lock and/or elementary school grammar in a chat box.

I think this tool will alleviate things a lot for people who are still forming groups for things (the 10 people remaining who still need dungeon loot).

If I’m right, the only reasons left people have for adding dual spec is basically to save their own gold and to increase their convenience for the purpose of raid performance/utility, which isn’t a great argument and never has been.

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I believe there was an overwhelming consensus that phase 2 sucked and was unplayable. Had it lasted much longer it would have literally killed the game.

If I knew you IRL I would force you to bet me money. I hate when people make claims when they pay no cost for being wrong.

Did you even play TBC? I did and the group-forming tool was virtually useless. The current addons you can just download are 10x better.

Why?

Good.


This seems nonsensical to me. I mean, it could be that whatever the scenario you are describing here is visualized differently in your mind than how you’ve described it, and it just comes across as, well… nonsensical.

But yes, if there is an argument, and rather than attacking the argument, you attack the character of the person, group, whatever, making that argument, it’s ad hominem.

For example, a young child makes a statement, “You should focus on saving money while you are young.” And someone says in return, “You are only 5 years old, you don’t know what money is, nor how to save it.”

The response is not responding to the statement or argument.


You literally have evidence (and indeed enough proof) to show that what you’ve stated is ad hominem, yet you not only lack in having your own ability to understand things, you defer to reddit as an authority.

Good luck with decision making. Your strategy for doing so does seem to work for a lot of people.

Ah. Only for those who for some reason wanted to dominate others, but found themselves unable to do so.

Phase 2 during WoW Classic (not TBC Classic) was the greatest phase possible, especially as an underdog faction on a PVP server (for those of us who actually enjoy WoW, and PVP, and not just having some advantage over others).

You claimed this thread is representative of the playerbase, I said it wasn’t.

And the proof I put foward for why the forums aren’t representative of the playerbase is because they are full of trolls, nolifes, and people mad about something.

Yes, ad hominem.

If you enjoyed it, good for you. But you do realize that you’re a pretty small minority, right?

Go link what I wrote to literally anyone and ask them if it was an ad hominem.

I don’t have to ask someone else. I am capable of using my own literacy. It is ad hominem. This isn’t a question.

Based on what?

I feel like you are trying to annoy me to the point I insult you so you can use it as proof that I make ad hominem attacks.

Do you think the majority thought phase 2 was good?

Well, that’s on you.


Where are your data sources? From what content/context/sources are you inferring your conclusions?


Well, I don’t think anyone on Normal servers has any issue whatsoever with P2 of WoW Classic.

I think that the only people who had issue with P2 of WoW Classic on PVP servers were people who should not have been on PVP servers.

And yes, that would certainly not represent the majority of all of WoW Classic players.

All I have is anecdotes because I don’t think hard data exists. But I feel pretty confident that the vast majority of the playerbase was happy phase 2 ended early, and that Blizzard was losing hundreds of thousand of subscriptions for every week phase 2 continued.

Do you disagree?

Why?

Can we get back to the actual topic of this thread, rather than derail it to talk about WoW Classic phase 2?


You are the one who derailed it. And you are the one who wants to argue with me even though you agree with me. And you never answer my questions.

Good trolling.


For what it’s worth, I have a lot of posts about my support of being the underdog during phase 2 on PVP servers. And I certainly would not feel comfortable being an Alliance character on Heartseeker talking about phase 2.


What questions?

^ This?

Why not?

Yes. I asked twice.

Because a great deal of people on Heartseaker ran away from Stalagg rather than enjoy PVP on the PVP server they rolled on. It’s more or less the definition of dishonor.


Of course I disagree. I’ve already stated reasons why. If you’d read what I’ve stated, how can you be asking this question?

I said that the forums are filled with trolls, nolifes, and people mad about something. Do you actually disagree with that? Do you actually believe the forums are representative of the average player?