Winterfall Runner Glitches at Timbermaw Tunnel

There are several bugs associated with this area, which has recently become a hot spot for farming Timbermaw Hold Reputation due to the short respawn time of the Winterfall Runners.

  1. Travel to Winterspring and travel to the entrance of the Timbermaw Hold Tunnel (where the NPC Salfa resides).
  2. Along the way, look for and kill the pack of 3 Winterfall Runners to make them respawn at the tunnel.
  3. Reach the Timbermaw Hold Tunnel, wait for the Winterfall Runners to respawn, kill them, and loot them.
  4. Repeat Step 3 until one of the following bugs occurs. (all the bugs occur during or after the death/looting of the Winterfall Runners)

Bug #1: The client or chunk of the zone freezes up when looting a Winterfall Runner. This has occurred several times, both alone and in a party (the bug may or may not affect team members in the area as well - this seemed to depend on whether the teammate looted at the same time). During the “freeze” no interactions can take place, other players are frozen but your character can move about, and the chat is live and functioning, allowing confirmation that there is no server lag and other players within the Winterspring Zone are not experiencing problems. If a player logs out or closes the client and attempts to log back into the character that experienced the bug, the loading screen will fail and present a “A character with that name already exists” error message. The chunk of Winterspring seems to reboot after about 10 minutes, disconnecting the character and allowing the player to log back in and resume farming.
(Bug #1 encountered 4 times: once alone, twice with an affected teammate, and once to only my teammate - i did not loot at the same time)

Bug #2: In the aftermath of Bug #1, the corpse that was looted at the time of the “freeze” now becomes a permanent corpse with a permanent loot sparkle and permanent option to loot the corpse. Upon an attempt at looting, nothing will happen, and about 30 seconds later a delayed “You don’t have permission to loot that corpse” message will pop up.
(Bug #2 encountered 5 times: twice on 1/20 without freeze - watched another player get frozen - and three times on 1/21 after I had witnessed Bug #1)

Bug #3: Over time while farming, many of the Winterfall Runner corpses fail to despawn and become permanent landmarks. The resulting pileup of corpses was fixed during the Tuesday server maintenance, but it seems the permanent corpse bug was not fixed this week.
(Bug #3 encountered countless times on both 1/20 and 1/21)

Bug #4: Occasionally a corpse will prevent the player from taking the available loot. Similar to Bug #2, but a loot window will open with visible loot when the player interacts with the corpse. Similar to Bug #3 and Bug #2, the corpse becomes permanent and does not despawn.
(Bug #4 encountered only once on 1/20)

Bug #5: On 1/20 after the corpses were really starting to pile up, some of the Winterfall Runners would despawn immediately upon death. This occurred before they had even finished their death animation and would prevent the player from attempting to loot the corpse.
(Bug #5 encountered countless times only on 1/20 when there were innumerable permanent corpses in the area)

Expected Results: Kill Winterfall Runners, loot them, watch their bodies despawn a few minutes later per normalcy.
Actual Results: Kill Winterfall Runners, some despawn immediately, some freeze your game and prevent play time for about 15 minutes, then tease with permanent loot sparkles but no loot window, a few let you see the loot but won’t let you take it, and many corpses perform normally with the exception of despawning.

Characters: Atiesh (Me), Donutshop (Teammate)
Realm: Whitemane
Mods Installed: DBM, AtlasLoot, Details!, VendorPrice

UPDATE: Farming continued 1/22 and 1/23. It seems the main bug (#1) may be related to the Winterfall Spirit Beads dropped item. I have encountered Bug #1 THREE more times and every time I opened loot, the silver and any other items were looted, but the Winterfall Spirit Beads stayed in the loot window. When exiting the loot window and attempting to loot again, nothing comes up and the bug continues as described above.

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Having the EXACT same issue (literally on every point).

Sometimes it goes a while without loot bugging, but other times it’s after our first kill of the runners near the tunnel entrance. We tried kiting them further down the path before killing to no avail. Furthermore, myself and my teammate are starting to bug on the same runner while looting (whereas before it was just one at a time).

Logging out and waiting does not work for us. The only fix we’ve found is resetting our password, but the bodies still remain with loot even the next day.

Bug still occurring as of today, 1/22/2020.

Characters: Kaetryx (me), Manastorm (teammate)
Realm: Incendius
Mods: All mods disabled on both accounts. Tested on other PCs as well to rule out software as a possibility.

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Hey Kaetryx, sorry to hear that you’re having the same issues but I’m glad that this isn’t an isolated issue, hopefully it will get some attention and some fixes soon! The bugs seem random at best, so I haven’t been able to find a way to replicate it on-command or to prevent the bugs.

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I’m having the EXACT same issue. Been farming these for a few hours and I thought I was the issue. Definately is due to the corpses and the loot bug.

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I have also experienced this same issue while farming the runners with my wife. Today they actually just stopped spawning completely. Checked their travel path several times just to make sure we just somehow didn’t miss them. Couldn’t find them anywhere. One thing I noted was frozen timbermaw warder corpses near the entrance, which some hunter had killed earlier, would never actually despawn.

Just ran into this same issue. Waited about 10 minutes for my character to disconnect then logged back in and it was resolved.

The Runners seem to have stopped spawning on my server Kurinnaxx entirely. I’ve been farming them for more than a month with all the above problems. Others have picked up the trend and there’s a pile of bodies, but the runners themselves are nowhere to be found. Been up and down the patrol path a dozen times and have waited checking the cave for an hour. Can’t find them.

I hate to see that everyone else is experiencing this, but I’m glad you are all reporting it! I’m excited for Blizz to clean up the bodies tomorrow (Tuesday) but I’m hoping we get a little more than that. If anyone has any input for specific steps to repeat and isolate the primary glitch (bug #1 in OP) please post it to help the Blizztech team!

Hi all!

Try turning off auto loot and loot items one at a time. No bugs for a while now… knock on wood.

HI ALL!!!
It would seem Blizzard has fixed MANY of the bugs. I can only confirm for Whitemane, but I’m hopeful that it’s been fixed everywhere else too.
Thank you Tech Team!

HOWEVER, Bug #4 is still occurring with the “Internal Bag Error” message when attempting to loot AND Bug #5 still occurs. These two bugs are not very common but they are definitely still a part of the game. Regardless, big thanks to the Tech Team for fixing many of these bugs, it has made the farm much more enjoyable!

Tech Team: Bug #4 seems to only occur with Winterfall E’ko, the Winterfall Spirit Beads, and the Winterfall Firewater. I have not seen it occur with any other items that become unlootable due to Bug #4.