Titans are oblivious to the existence of the First Ones and the other Pantheons so they don’t have any rules barring them from interfering as far as they are aware of.
The First Ones clearly didn’t expect that the Titans needed instructions due to being a Pantheon of Order and thus expected to remain put and not meddle with anything on their own.
Unfortunately for the First Ones that’s not how it played out.
This sounds like a case of turning lemons into lemonade (soulade??)…I guess? I mean I don’t know why she couldn’t have just saved them or stopped the Horde. This is why keeping deities mysterious is important because now I think she’s just kinda useless.
I mean elune has generally not been a physical presence. Even in War of the Ancient she had Tyrande be a conduit of her power and generally did not directly interfer.
That is true but she’s actually appeared and spoken (through Tyrande). Before, she was just a mysterious entity, that was truly unknowable by mere mortals.
Elune doesn’t have any responsibility for the burning. In the aftermath of the tragedy she sought to send the souls to Ardenweald to aid her sister, who had called out to her in the face of the drought. However Elune was unaware that the system of Death had broken down and that all the souls were going directly to the Maw. Thus the Winter Queen thought her sister ignored her, hence her anger and the disdain way she asked why she should help her sister’s pet (Ysera) during the leveling experience of Ardenweald.
The cinematic is about Elune learning the truth, the Winter Queen letting go of her anger, and Tyrande choosing renewal. What I am really curious about is if Elune discovering this will compel her to take a more active role for her favored children. Like say being involved with 10.0 in some manner.
There’s a rumor I heard recently that the next expansion could be called Astral Skies. Elune can be considered “Astral” in some aspects, and the Dragon Isles being the continent would fit the “Skies.”
Elune has always gathered Night Elf souls, this time she just sent them to a different location, bear in mind that the LAST time Elune attempted this with Ysera around Broken shores she (Ysera) arrived safely.
Elune as a non-Shadowlands entity has no way of knowing what goes on in the Shadowlands. Nor did she in any way have involvement with Teldrassil burning, could she have stopped it? Maybe, maybe not, we admittedly don’t have a very clear picture of Elune’s scope and abilities.
Gosh, I hope not. That’s a terrible name for an expac.
Shadowlands is so messed up it even contradicts lore made in Legion and BfA, which is insane to me. But yes, in the original lore, Elune’s darker aspect was the Night Warrior, who gathered the souls of the Night Elves that died to dwell with her in the night sky as stars. This is why Kaldorei Demon Hunters refer to what they do as a sacrifice, because by gouging out their Elune blessed eyes, they’re rejecting her and thus locking themselves out of their afterlife.
This expansion has stomped on prior, years long lore so thoroughly that the only race even somewhat ‘correct’ about their afterlife are the Trolls. And even that exists only in the context of the lore literally made up purely for this expansion. It’s so weird.
That’s what makes me think this is some higher up dev’s OC and they’re just using WoW to implement it. It’s so completely divorced from everything WoW’s cultures believed about the afterlife that I can’t believe those same people came up with this on their own.
That was never definitvely confirmed to be true, and then retconned. It was something she was said to have done, by the Night Elves. The Night Elves were wrong, it seems.
That’s the thing I think about most when hear about Astral Skies. Horrible name.
I kind of like the Astral stuff aspects of a Balance Druid even though they seem to come out of no where… so that would be cool if it gets expanded on… But the name isn’t appealing.
It sounds like more convoluted stuff. Astral Skies? Is that like a mix of some sky and some space? Like the Twisting Nether without the Fel? That might be cool… but there has to be a better name for an Expac.
What happened is she couldn’t stop the tragedy, but she could triage the situation and send their anima-filled souls to Ardenweald likely leaning on their destination to help with the drought. But being in the realms of life; she was unaware of the stuff going down. So she inadvertently hastened them to the maw. Now she realized she messed up. Essentially; she isn’t omniscient as evidence here, and acted as the situation called for. Ardenweald served as an important realm of death that helped the cycle of Life and Death to continue. If it fell; then the cosmos would be thrown into chaos. She also figured that her sister would take good care of the Night Elves.
Oh that… that’s bad. If that is a leak, I really hope it was intentional so they can gauge the community.
IF the next expac is supposed to be for the Dragon Isles, or at least feature them in some major capacity they need lean into that. “Astral Skies” is the absolute last way I would lead into an expansion after the trip that Shadowlands has been.
Nothing screams “we’re not going back to Azeroth at all” more than something like “Astral Skies”.
I think, back to my original point, that my main problem is Elune’s guilt. It has been suggested that Elune feels guilty because she attempted to bypass the arbiter and send the souls of the Nelfs to Ardenweald but instead they were consigned to the Maw. It has been suggested that Elune has no power in Shadowlands. If this is the case, she has no power to send those souls to Ardenweald. A mortal being dies and its soul goes to Shadowlands, ostensibly to the arbiter because that is the nature of the afterlife in this universe. When Elune is told those souls went to the Maw, she believes she condemned her favored children. Maybe she could have saved them and chose not to. Somehow she feels responsible for their deaths. We just don’t know why.
It would have been cool if instead of Shadowlands. They made the Night Warrior a whole expansion called “Wrath of Elune” or something, with Tyrande being a raid boss, and her escaping to Shadowlands to fight Sylvanas.
Why would Tyrande be a raid boss? Tyrande destroys the Shadowlands Covenant while looking for Sylvanas? Or will she break the Shadowlands at the beginning of the expansion (how?), Skip time, we are fixing Shadowlands, and now the headgad is Tyrande the Reaver, and not Sylvanas the Victim of Elune?
Blip. We’re going to Shadowlands anyway, right?
Sylvanas is Illidan, the Maw is the nagas and the Scourge, Tyrande is Maiev, the Covenant is Prince Kael’thas, the heroes are Malfurron, Bolvar and the rest are Tyrande? Um … Stupid?
Tyrande decapitated an orc for her ritual and then vowed to destroy the Horde. Why wouldn’t she be a raid boss? We fought Jaina for less.
Jaina was fought because of the siege of the city, Tyrande because of the unknown orc. Are you sure you want to make Tyrande a raid boss, not the final boss of a side quest chain? Or a daily quest to kill Tyrande for every Horde slain on Darkshore?
Let’s just… Not kill Tyrande every day, okay? That sounds a bit ick.
It will be like with Athanos. But who will pacify whom? The Horde will not like being tamed by Tyrande, the opposite makes the Night Warrior even more ridiculous, and the night elves will howl.