Windwalker Monk or Survival Hunter?

Trying to decide what my first alt will be, i am stuck between the two. I do mostly Random BGs’ and Battleground Blitz. I am trying to get into arenas as well. Which of the two do you think is more fun and is good in both Arenas and Bgs’?

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surv hunter is poop and is ignored by blizz but monk is absolutely insane most of the time, go monk for sure

Pretty sure WW is blowing Surv out of the Water with Arena rep.

You’ll also probably like it more because it can heal itself to full and get around the map easier than Survival.

Survival has a higher skill cap, has stealth on a CD, and some cool ranged mechanics.

I play both.
SV is often the kill target and in long arena matches usually is at a disadvantage to the other power specs that most people play.

WW has strong burst but has no solution for Rogues in skirms or 2s. Immediate trinket is the only option but then you have to get a defensive off or you are toast. ( not karma because they just cloak it) Any resets and you are done for running around in leather.

SV is really fun, it just needs a little more love and Blizzard is scared to do anything.

what class and spec would you recommend for me to try? i am not a fan of meta.
I like mobility
i am not too much a fan of utility but i can deal with it
i would prefer melee but ranged is ok

karate monk

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i’d go surv.

I’d recommend Surv, but try both.

Both specs can do amazing when piloted correctly. I feel Surv has better consistency than WW, but probably fewer options than WW while WW has the opposite in less consistency but more options than Surv. WW is significantly more predictable than Surv. If the predictability is played around well, WW can fall flat. Also Surv can kite melee as a melee spec, and if all goes wrong you still have MM for bgs and BM for rated.

In terms of fun, go WW. There’s so much random wackiness present and it makes for a great time in bgs. For example, you can Skyreach up the cliffs in the middle of Kotmogu. It will straight up run you from the inside along the wall all the way to your target that is sitting on the edge from mid. Extra bonus if this is your first time playing WW because you won’t know the loss of FoF stun.

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My issue with ww is you will have to deal with being kited where with survival it’s a bit less of an issue. Ww is all out mongo these days survival is a bit more finesse which unfortunately isn’t as valuable in the current retail wow.

Both can be fun.

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Sounds like WW to me. You mostly win with damage, whereas Survival has a lot more CC to coordinate.

If you want a non-meta Ranged spec that pumps, you could try Devastation but you’ll need to mouse turn. Positioning and kiting well is key or you’re a free HK.

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I think WW has better defensives. Karma is great, good CC, movements as well.

If solo queuing without a healer for BGs, you should always opt for the class that can do damage from range. Survival is good because you can go in or stay out depending on what the fight looks like.

WW is stronger for small fights and burst, but I’d take SV hunter for typical random BG play unless you are specifically playing in such a way to avoid the team fights.

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It’s so sad.

I remember when survival first went melee in legion and it was so busted. I made a survival twink hunter and collected so many rage whispers. It was glorious

How the mighty have fallen

Just saw a Tauren WW complaining in a bg it was the worst spec he played in battlegrounds. I think WW has its moments, if you are in a strong team it will thrive, but lack of LOS in battlegrounds hurts WW a lot. WW, you have to pick your battles.

Survival is a pick your battles class, too. I think the longer you play, the better you get at it, though, but be prepared. At least with Survival, you get camo and element of surprise. I don’t see a load of them in battlegrounds either.

I don’t think either is good into multiple MM Hunters, which litter random BGs.

Both have defensives on large CDs

Also Karma can be removed by Ret, which are popular too

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The fact that they can ruin karma with cloak is reason enough to corpse camp rogue players.

we could all just be single digit I.Q spastics and play DH? least u can put a movie on and chill why u wipe the whole lobby XD

…but you can’t corpse camp rogues. What are you on about?

Survival has better consistent damage. WW has better burst. Both have multiple defensive cooldowns, both have a disarm. WW has better self healing. Mobility is about equal, however WW has port. Survival can deal rot damage from range and deal full damage from range on a cooldown. WW can’t do anything from range really. Survival has more CC.

go mm like everyone else

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