Windows and a new computer

So with the loss of support of windows 10 my current 4 year old computer will not allow upgrade to win 11 due to tpm 2.0. What is a good company to look at pre built computers? Only for wow and Diablo 4

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do you have a microcenter nearby? If so, go get a powerspec, it’s their inhouse brand.

I don’t unfortunately

are you open to DIY or set on prebuilt?

if so, what major retailers do you have locally, or a preferred online vendor?

Hi. Set on prebuilt. In Portland Oregon so open to stores or even online. Last computer was through new egg

budget and form factor (do you want a smaller computer, or do you want a larger one, glass side panel to see inside, etc.)

do you do anything else besides game (stream, video edit, etc)?

do you need considerable storage? do you have a lot of USB peripherals?

do you want to be able to upgrade it on your own, or will you just buy a new PC when the time comes?

Looks of the computer don’t matter to me honestly. I just care about performance. I desire more storage as my big mistake on my current system is only getting a 500gb ssd. Just blizzard games and internet surfing. I think my usb usage is average with a headset and keyboard mouse

Alright, cool. What’s your budget?

1200 hopefully.

What exactly is your current, 4-year-old computer? Something of that vintage (10th gen Intel, Zen 2 AMD) is almost certainly going to have a firmware-based TPM (fTPM) option, which is supported under Win11. As such it might be a simple BIOS toggle to let you install it. Alternatively you could also look into a TPM hardware module for your system, which is likely to cost US$20 or less.

It is also possible to bypass the TPM requirement. I can’t say that I’ve done it, or have any interest in doing so (despite not actually using any of the features it would restrict), so I’ve never looked it up and couldn’t walk you through it. But it’s very much possible.

NB Win10 support hasn’t ended. It has one year, to the day, left before it’s considered EoL.

you can check out sites like logical increments and Toms hardware (they have a diablo IV hardware review) for builds that will give you the performance you want for your monitor specs.

Then you can check out pre-built sites like
Dell/Alienware
HP/Omen
Cyberpower/Ibupower

Also, PCgamer on their web site runs a “Best cheap gaming PC deals today” that gets updated every few days. You can also check out costco & BJs if you have a membership there.

There are good pre-built sellers, there are not so good ones, and then there’s Dell/HP.

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Something like this might be pretty good. I am not too familiar with ABS brand, but from what I gather, it is Newegg’s in-house brand.

https://www.newegg.com/p/83-360-525?Item=83-360-525&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

It’s a 13th gen, but lower power F models don’t appear to be affected by the issues. It will be supported by Windows 11 natively and this system comes with Windows 11 preloaded.

Personally, I have a 13700KF with no issues. That said AMD X3D chips are superior for this game; however, I don’t see any prebuilts with that CPU in your price range and Intel outperforms the AMD non-X3D chips.

The 13400F has 6 Performance cores with hyperthreading and 4 e-cores for multitasking. It should be good for any game out there right now.

4070 is a decent midrange product and performs well in this game.
It has 32GB DDR5 which should be plenty and from photos is dual channel.
It has a 1TB SSD; this is pretty standard for this price range but you can always add more.
The system itself appears to have adequate cooling overall, and appears to be user serviceable as opposed to offerings by major brands like HP/Dell/Acer/etc.

This is on sale for $1159 and comes with Star Wars Outlaws w/some DLC for that game, if you care about that.

There’s a version with a Ryzen 7600x for the same price linked here that would probably be slightly better.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360531?Item=N82E16883360531

Less RAM, not meaningfully faster as it is not an X3D chip.

It’s a toss up. The poster doesn’t appear interested in upgrading so the AM5 socket is not really meaningful.

I’d opt for more RAM as 16GB is pushing the limit these days even for browser, and again, user doesn’t appear interested in upgrading on their own.

Likely they’d not notice a difference in performance with the CPU.

Either works though. Yours is slightly over budget. They’re both better than big brands, though.

Alternatively, you could spend a much smaller budget and still have a pretty good experience.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360502C?Item=N82E16883360502C

$899

Ryzen 5 7600
32GB RAM
1TB SSD

Refurb tho

It might be noticeable, as the 7600x tends to compete much more directly with the 13600k (even before the Windows 11 24H2 AMD Optimizations)

like i said either works, it’s a little low on ram, and a tad over budget.

if he’s okay with refurb the one I linked is much cheaper and the 7600 is not really much slower than the 7600x. worse GPU, though. Not sure if it’s $400 worse.

Or, if you decide to roll your own, this would perform really well in WoW. Throw in a Windows 11 key for $30.

PCPartPicker Part List: h ttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/MyV2KX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor ($196.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($469.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 3000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1158.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-15 13:39 EDT-0400

Same price as others mentioned, double the storage, much faster CPU (for wow), faster GPU, and you learn a thing or two.

PC building in 2024 is lightyears simpler than it has ever been. And many many resources to show you exactly how to do it.

While I build my own PCs for personal use, on a professional level I’ve never had an issue with DELL. HP/Omen I have had an issue with them and their customer service but it would be silly to disregard one of the largest pre-built sellers out there if the OP can get a good deal.

OP seems set on pre-built but not sure I would go with a DDR4 system this day especially when you mention a more modern 7600 previously. Also, as much as I like Corsair the RMe line is over priced for parts & performance, you can get the much better XPG Core Reactor II 750w on Amazon for $85 which has a longer warranty, better build and performance. In fact both PSU are built by the same company with the XPG having the better platform. Honestly a quality 650w would handle that system no problem.