Wind Serpents

I’m confused here. Wind Serpents were supposed to be the “ranged” option for pets. Ok…so why are their normal attacks melee? It seems like they blow their 2 shots from ranged with the spell then rush into the boss and die anyway. is there “any” way to make them stand their ground and only cast thei rranged shot as energy allows? Some kind of macro? Or are these as worthless as they seem?

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Issue them a stay order as soon as they get into range to shoot

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There a macro to do this auto? LIke /attack and /stay? I imagine you can’t have it in 1 macro cuz you wouldn’t know when they are close enough have to wait until they shoot once?

Also, once they are staying, are they still attacking after?

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I honestly dont know the details. I’ve seen a hunter do it.

Try finding the hunter class discord and asking there. You’ll find people who know a lot more than me.

You have time in your rotation to micro your pet abilities from what I have seen on my hunter.

I don’t use macros, others might. Comes down to preferences i guess and yes once they have enough energy they will cast lightning breath again.

So. You want your pet doing nothing between focus dumps?

While leveling, your pet provides most of your dps. That means two things. It can keep aggro allowing you to shoot, and it kills things for you.

When raiding, your pet makes up a not insignificant portion of your dps (for now.)

If it is a stationary pet only using abilities on focus/cd…what’s the point?

Just don’t tame one with a mana bar. They have caster stats and are bad in melee range, which they should always be within.

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I read your initial confusion over again. No. They do not have a ranged auto attack. Just an ability.

What’s the point? Obviousyl because a TON of fights you can’t send your pet in or they die instantly. If I can have the serpent ranged casting his bolt every so often at least it’s something. Just tryign to find the proper macros for this

This. The perfect answer.

Which had a follow up on if it can be done with macros either in 1 big macro, or must you wait to hit it until it starts getting to it’s specific spot etc

Elaborate further on “TON of fight.”

You can bind the recall/passive action to a hotkey for your pet. If you know hand of rag is coming (as an example) hit whatever hot key that is bound to and your pet returns avoiding that damage.

What you are suggesting is counter productive to having a pet doing damage at all. If you want something that provides a benefit to your raid group (albeit quite small) tame a wolf. Park it next to you and bind his furious howl to your aimed shot.

However, you should be looking to get brokentooth or at the very least another cat for dps. Wind serpents are not worth using until you can tame a son of hakkar.

Even further dissected, the standard raid spec is 20/31/0. If you aren’t using your pet for dps as frequently as possible, you are wasting 15 talent points in the BM tree.

Not sure how you would do it in a normal macro. You might be able to sequence it using GSE though. Something like “enter combat” set stay?

Thanks Sambouki. As far as Broken tooth, that shouldn’t matter other than pvp interuption right, as the dps is the same? I’ll give the /passive macro a try to time some of that stuff. I wonder if there’s a complex macro that I can do on the same key stroke (like right now my pet attack is Q) I wonder if no…that prob isn’t possible…was thinking something that if I hit Q while it was attacking a target it would go passive, and vice versa.

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If you care about min/max, brokentooth is still the highest dps pet in the game-but requires a lot of effort in actually taming then leveling. A standard cat from winter spring will be just fine.

You probably can make a reverse macro, but I like things easy. Considering our rotation is literally only two buttons (multi and aimed and literally nothing else) I was able to find a key bind for both “attack” and “passive.”

I think you are overthinking this thing, and there is nothing inherently wrong with that, but I am way too lazy for all that effort when I can achieve the same result with minimal input.

My experience is that when I do this, my pet goes through the lava and dies.

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Granted-but that is a single fight. I also have experienced that, but it isn’t common enough for me to just not use the pet. We clear Rag quite quickly, so if my pet dies, Rag is only a few seconds behind and it doesn’t alter my dps by any mentionable degree.

I bound my pet to my mouse wheel - forward is pet attack, backward is pet follow, and wheel button is pet stay. I added Hunter’s Mark to the attack and it works beautifully and independent of your character.

I can strafe and finish off a mob while my pet is blowing something else up.

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Your pet shouldn’t really be dying consistently in any fights except maybe Shazz. With petpassive you can keep your pet moving between any two spots pretty easily.

Put your pet on passive and macro lightning breath into your other abilities?

Will using a focus dump ability make a pet on passive auto attack?

The stay command might work on fights that don’t move but I think a passive pet only casting a ranged focus dump and following where you go will help it survive best.

Yeah, just have to figure out the range on the ability which I dont’ think is all tha thigh

Because it’s not real Vanilla.