Hey guys, so I know a lot of people think Wintergrasp Offense is difficult to win, so I made a strategy video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-bpmm1qaxTA
Give it a watch. Follow the strategy and you’ll win Wintergrasp A LOT more often!
In the future, I’ll make another video about what to do if you lose the SR teamfight or don’t have a healer advantage.
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That was …. Super helpful actually. Ty!
Have you always been able to attack the vault directly after only breaking one wall? I never knew that was possible. I’m surprised they didn’t just increase the height of the walls or something.
That’s pretty nice!
Now if you can manage to get your team to listen to the strat instead of calling you names for suggesting something. 
Too bad this only works with at least a partial premade (…SOD, in this video), and only if you happen to win the first SR teamfight (rarely happens with pugs)
The video guide that is really needed is the one where you lose the first SR teamfight at the start, since that is the much more common scenario. Ideally the video is done as a solo player/no partial premade, to really simulate the average Wintergrasp experience of the audience member/viewer
Like I said, yes, I’m planning on making that video.
Unfortunately, I’m not gonna “throw” a teamfight just for the YouTube video, so we gotta wait until we “naturally” lose the teamfight before I can make the video.
Anyone can use this strat, not just premades. That’s why I made the video; to try to “disperse” the strat among the playerbase and make it the “new meta.”
bruh, respect for the vid. Thats a to the point, solid explanation. A lot of players are intimidated by the bigger pvp modes, myself included, im legit gonna try this thing out now. You should do the other ones too.
Tbh I’ve been observing this kind of backfire in solo-queue pug teams. Seems like your premade ideas are “rubbing off” on some of these pug players and they’re trying monkey see/monkey do… but because they are not a premade the strats are being botched/backfiring on these same pugs 
Last night playing Alliance I zoned into a Wintergrasp defense - I’m thinking, “great! this’ll be an ez win and I’ll quickly knock out the Oribos quest”
…suddenly in the chat I notice a pug say “dont go SR, all go BT” and then “it worked great yesterday” (I’m assuming he ended up in one of your premades), I’m thinking to myself “oh boy, here comes a big split” 
Starting gate opens… and of course about 10-12 pugs run off to SR (split), about 19-20 go BT as called for before the match, 3 afkers in the base, and the rest sprinkled out on the road fighting NPCs for the quest.
Horde quickly picks off/gets rank off the dumb room-temperature iq 10ish players that didn’t read chat and blindly charged into SR. Horde quickly builds to 12/12 off the rank, while we’re still sitting at 0 vehicles twiddling our thumbs at BT. Suddenly about 5-6 pugs decide to run off to Westpark (shrinking the 20-21 at BT down to about 15). At this point Horde is coming with their full 35-40 players and 12 catas.
Horde quickly overruns BT in the ensuing 15v35, builds to 16/16, and steamrolls thru the walls for the win. So these pugs basically threw away what (probably) would’ve been an easy win because “i saw a premade do it and i wanna try it!”
I post these observations (…and this is just one example, been seeing similar botched plays in the other epics) to highlight what happens to pugs when “they dont do it right”, it’s definitely amusing to watch 
One of these days you should queue up using some random/no-name alt so people don’t recognize you, queue up for a few solo-queue matches (without SOD) and observe for yourself…
I assume they were speaking in raid chat, not raid warning.
Anyway, with a strat like that, you need to REPEAT YOURSELF. You can’t just say it “once” and expect folks to follow.
Hey, that’s more than I expected.
Eventually, all PUGs will catch on, and it’ll be like 35-40 going BT.
Sure.
I’ll do it on stream as well.
Nice, but remember: don’t talk at all/give your identity away/try to “raid-lead”
Just go along with whatever strat the pugs agree to and observe what happens as a 3rd party observer 
Of course, that’s obvious.
Okay, nope. Not doing that, that’s so stupid.
Fun fact: PUGs ACTUALLY talk in epic BGs.
You’re basically asking me to TRY to lose if you don’t want me to communicate with my fellow PUGs to win the epics.
Still gonna stream it if you want to watch it later.
“Alec goes incognito!”
What is it with alliance and their whole win by SR battle or lose mentality? Is this some alliance joke that I’m too horde to understand?
It isn’t just Alliance though. Spoiler: Horde pugs use the same exact strat.
For better or for worse, both sides seem to agree to teamfight at SR. That’s basically the “standard” strat used by pugs, occasionally with a partial/full premade different strats are used… but “go SR” is the default from pug players
I can’t believe people still play wintergrasp. I’d rather watch paint dry
ummm you know OP’s video shows alliance initiating the SR battle head on instead of looping around and doing-it-from-the-behind right?
I’m doing that RIGHT NOW on stream.
Go check it out, but do NOT solo queue with me!
Edit: Okay, I concede. I can’t do much by myself.
But that’s why I make the videos. To teach the PUGs the strats in hopes that they’ll learn it and be better able to act intelligently.
Oh, you actually did it?
I’ll go watch the replay in a bit here 
I don’t really get the point you were trying to prove.
If anything, it means I need to make MORE videos so that MORE alliance PUGs can learn good strategies for epics.
Like, the strats worked out fine. I just lost because nobody was listening when I was calling for help to backcap or defend.
In my opinion WG has pretty much reeked since Wrath. I did however practically live there during the expansion - loved it. If I recall, there is a spot on the Horde side along one of the hills near the fortress wall. If you position a demolisher just right, you can clear all walls and hit the door to the Titan artifact.