It’s possible there are a large number of folks who would play classic if they could support their subscriptions with tokens.
Have tokens encouraged players to stay subbed, because they could pay for the sub using tokens?
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The effect of tokens is going to be difficult to predict. You can’t really even use retail as a benchmark, because the environment was totally different than classic’s is by the time tokens were introduced.
Overall, though, I doubt they’ll affect sub numbers all that much.
Pretty sure they’d lose subs to people who are original Vanilla players. I was one of them and would have to consider whether I’d even want to keep my sub. I pretty much have achieved everything I wanted so ending there wouldn’t be the end of the world for me.
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Well, my guess is that you don’t have to worry about Classic WoW tokens in NA/EU for at least two quarters (unless the tokens in China generate an obscene amount of money right off the bat).
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shrug i support my subscription with tokens already.
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You can already pay for your subscription to classic with a token… It just takes playing retail.
Wow subs will actually increase with tokens release. Sure, some carebears will quit but most people will gladly pay IRL to save time from having to work in-game farming gold.
Then what will happen is multiboxers and hardcore farmers will be able to use their fast gold flow to pay all their accounts essentially for free. It will ultimately boost subs.
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Tokens. Not. Relevant. In. NA.
They are literally spending all of their time trying to figure out what they can get away with for micro transsactions in classic without losing the playerbase. My guess is they will do tokens and levelboosts at TBC launch because they can only get away with it at a huge release like that.
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Are they putting tokens into Classic? Did I miss something?
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yes they are.
Quick google search seems to indicate only in China. Not sure how I feel about it, but it DOES basically kill the 3rd party RMT market. That’s an actual benefit.
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How would it not effect him? Being able to buy and sell tokens on Classic would disrupt the entire economy of realms.
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Would it? What are you basing that on?
Players could use real world cash to buy gold and corner markets for one…The reason this isn’t an issue in retail is because crafting and collecting has essentially been made worthless.
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People can already do that if theyre so inclined, using either the massive amounts of gold farmed by botting or gold bought in retail and traded. In fact, botters cornering the market on commodities is EXACTLY why blizzard introduced Tokens in the first place, and I’d wager it’s why the Chinese market was clamoring for them as a solution to their own inflated prices
I have a degree in econ and with all the variables and artificial constraints involved in a system like this, it’s a pretty interesting, if complicated, problem that gives me a headache trying to consider in its totality… so I get that yall arent intuitively grasping it and are instead falling prey to the emotional arguments offered by the doomsayers. But the reality is, it’s likely going to have a POSITIVE effect if it has any noticeable effect at all
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Adding tokens has effects that affect us all.
I tend to agree with this, but of course…
I suppose some people will quit, if only due to the signal that adding this type of thing sends, which is obviously that the effort to make Classic as Vanilla like is not a very strong effort.
A more relevant question might be what sort of revenue it may generate, and if that is significantly higher than the revenue generated without it.
I suspect that there’s an over-representation of people for whom a $15/month subscription fee is a considerable enough expense, that they would prefer to pay for game time with gold, i.e. the majority of private server players, and adding tokens may keep them around. It will be interesting to see what the price of tokens would be. Of course, I could be quite wrong with my suspicion.
I don’t particularly like the idea of adding WoW Tokens to the game, but I also don’t think that that addition would make me quit playing, if I were enjoying playing.
I’m not under any delusion that I think there are no people who are currently buying gold from third parties, however, those who do know that they are being shady, and risk having their accounts banned (they are cheating, and that’s exactly what that is). If we have Tokens, it legitimizes something that is currently a punishable cheat. That very much cheapens the experience, and pushes buying gold into the mainstream.
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Yes. Imagine having to actually play the game, right?
P2W retail culture is pathetic, really.
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Dunno, you play retail, tell us?
I would not assume tokens are coming to NA/EU/OCE classic though.
China is China.
If someone really wanted to pay their classic sub with gold, all they have to do is make a retail toon and spend an afternoon or two collecting gold.
You only need 141k to renew a sub, and in retail 141k is peanuts
I looked at my retail toons, there is literally millions of gold sitting there molding.