Will the horde ever have a fist pumping moment?

As a horde player over the years, I’ve always taken time to check out the forum disputes between both sides.
I’ve noticed alliance players felt they rarely get no big fist-pumping moments despite coming off victorious many times over the history of the story. As a horde player, I can truly think of no big moments for us through the story. The best I can think of is thrall blasting down Deathwing, but by that point, he wasn’t even with the horde anymore. This was cata, since this its been the following…

MOP

  • Horde leader for mop is villian
  • Horde mostly villainous and wreckless during MOP
  • Hordes island allies for mop are also problematic for the Pandaren
  • Lose a Faction of orcs
  • Lose a Respectable horde general that turned into a DK later on…
  • Booted From Dalaran

Even the developers admitted to not knowing what to do with garrosh during cata which led to story issues.

WOD

  • More old orcs bad guys
  • After we leave the orcs get conquered by the alliance (DR)
  • Horde have to mostly rely on alliance faction for help
  • Horde struggle with wildlife
  • Alliance struggles with actual threats

Didn’t know how i would make it through wod! i thought the orcs struggling against boars might have been the nail in the coffin, but hopefully legion will redeem us?!

Legion

  • Faction leader gets killed by a basic mob…
  • Varian goes out like every legendary hero we read about from our lore
  • Hordes legendary new leader who was once touted as the greatest archer on the face of Azeroth has her plan foiled by a Worgen who hid in a city with a huge wall quarantined for countless xpacs…
  • Hordes new legendary hero also has her navy shredded by a single alliance airship
  • Ex baddie gets redemption
  • help is from alliance-themed faction.
  • Daily Zone is just the nightelves long lost cousins that we will for some odd reason again get a elf race that for no other reason than plotholes will join us…
  • The alliance get to watch Illidan Etrigan the demon ride off with Marvels Eternals after they stop fire thanos…

Alliance villains redeeming themselves? Are horde Villians staying villainous? New trend possibly?!

BFA

  • Horde burn a capitol
  • Lose some seemingly interesting future allied race with the sanlayn
  • Princess watches her father die and does nothing
  • Newest Ally also has his daughter kidnapped at the time and does nothing to them
  • This Xpac neutral hero is another alliance
  • Horde hero’s sound more like the whiny twilight teenagers
  • Alliance win the war canonically
  • Hordes big tech guy is a bumbling moron who has products that are about as effective as ACME products sold by wish to wiley coyote.
  • Alliance faction leaders seem as if they have to production value of Disney backed film
  • Horde seem as if blizzard caved into Uwe Boll and let him take over the horde

Alliance has this legendary roster of reputable heroes that have fought countless wars and battles and have their names etched into countless areas of the game.
When they’re killed, holy mother :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: even as a horde player their deaths feel meaningful and impactful. They feel heroic just breathing.

When was the last time any hero horde side felt legendary?

Thrall? Whiny brat crying up a storm all over SL… Once heroic, now embarrassing
Baine? Its like he hasnt stop crying over emo going away in the mid 00s
Zappy boy? We like him, so they’ll off him sooner for that “shades of grey” story.
Lor themar? Is there a moment hes not having a hissy fit over anything other elves do?
Gally? Hey i love the robert kotick parody, but c’mon…

I’m not saying the horde needs to conquer the alliance and destroy them, but we quite literally are just the punching bags with nothing redeemable at this point.
Yes the horde has crapped on the alliance, but they’re Ice Cube from Friday. They’re the bully everyone is laughing at, not only have they knocked us the :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: out, they took their loot back, and ours with it.

TL&DR

horde look like absolute jokes, can we feel heroic without being completely vaillianous like the alliance form time to time?

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The story of wow hasn’t changed since wc2. Its always presented from the alliance pov while the horde just exists to experience the same alliance story from another perspective.

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Now we’ll have a whole council go crazy instead of a warchief

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“The Horde is torn between being honorable warriors and crushing their enemies” is the only faction story that Blizzard knows how to write. That’s just the way it is.

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Are you saying the horde is stupid and irrelevant at this point ?.

Because it seems we only do dumb stuff.

The Horde fist-pumping moment was swearing allegiance under Sylvanas, killing Saurfang, and recruiting Vulpera.

I’m not going back there, man.

Thrall is long gone, and so is Metzen.

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:man_facepalming:

sunday was yesterday.

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I don’t know what a fist pump moment is and at this point I’m afraid to ask

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It’s a quote from Chris Metzen back in 2013 (MoP era) that the forums and broader WoW community turned into a meme.

He said:

Don’t worry, Alliance! I love ya dearly. There’s some epic things yer about to do that will have you smiling and fist-pumping for years.

I’m not sure anyone really figured out what that was supposed to be in MoP, and it’s basically just a meme now.

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So nobody knows?

How do I know when I have one?

you’ll get a dopamine rush and hug your great ol’ waifu jaina pillow

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Are you saying that watching Thrall mope around doesn’t make you pump your first?

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Lolzers…

( the urge to make this topic NSFW intensifies)

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Sure.

Your Horde fist pump moment will be Baine walking up to Anduin after Anduin is rescued from the Jailer’s control and saying: “If you ever get mind controlled again, WE WILL END YOU!” then walking away.

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I mean, have you seen Baine’s abs though?

That’s no reason to fist-pump I’ve seen hotter cows

Correct. The Horde is still evil.

Orgrimmar: Slums, caste system in place with peons being forced into slavery for their labor, slavery of other races still exists to this day, and the mass deforestation of Ashenvale.

vs.

Stormwind: Labor movements exist and people are free to speak out against their unfair treatment. The problem got so bad that Defias started killing innocent poor people who were suffering by the hands of the Stormwind Royalty? O.O WTF Defias. You don’t kill innocent poor people you claim to be fighting for. Not forced to work like Orc Peons. Other than that… being human is pretty free.


Thunderbluff: Should’ve joined with the Night Elves. Makes no sense in the lore they’d just let the Orcs and Goblins ravage nature.

vs.

Ironforge: Had a democratic council before the Horde had one. The Dwarves have clan issues but it’s not as bad as the tribe conflicts between the Tauren. It used to be back in the time of the war of three hammers but now it’s calmed down and the Dwarves are united.


Undercity: Mind slavery, plague makers making them no different than the scourge, serve or die, fascism under Sylvanus.

vs

Darnassus: Men and women can actually switch roles now. Men can be sentinels and women can be druids. Same with priests etc. Highborne were accepted back into Night Elf society from Dire Maul.


Silvermoon: Supremacists, slavery is legal.

vs

The Exodar: Just like the Blood Elves, there are restrictions on those who practice dark magic. The Blood Elves are more evil and abuse a lot of folks so it’s no wonder Shadow Priests and Warlocks are allowed to practice in Silvermoon… (but stupidly enough Void Elves aren’t? :rofl:)

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what fist pumping moment did alliance have?

i mustve missed it.

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The Horde did have a fist bumping moment, it involved Baine and Anduin giving each other a high five then a hug, followed by playing air-guitar.

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