With Nefarian, Deathwing and Rend dead, The Dark Iron Dwarfs retreating back to Shadowforge city and the Dragonmaw aligned with us since Cataclysm is there a chance to bring the former largest clan back into the fold of the main faction? Like Exploring Azeroth says they still control the Blackrock Spire. I think now is the time to build some bridges and we are surley in need of the 5,000 Orcs still occupying the place and giving us another strategic base on the continent.
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The members of the Blackrock orcs who wanted to already joined the Horde under Garrosh.
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Not according to the current lore. There is a huge part of Orcs still occupying Blackrock Mountain and the alliance hasn’t moved against them. With Rend(last member of the blackhand family) and Nefarian(self proclaimed lord of the entire region) gone they lack leadership. The Horde could give them an olive branch.
Now you are just being silly.
Cordana is also still not fel corrupted in WoD.
Khadgar is still in Shattrath in Outland, and on Alternate Draenor
Yes… according to lore many Blackrock clan members joined the Horde under Garrosh. Others probably did not join up and should probably be considered enemies of the Horde. They refused an invitation even from Garrosh, so yeah.
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They was a clan who didn’t go to the camps and could hold their position through all those years. That deserves some respect. Instead of Orcs killing each other all the time we need to put a stop to it and reunite the Orcs as a whole race. It was bad enough when we killed the Fel Horde. Let’s not put our numbers even lower then they already are.
Orcs like Saurfang, Eitrigg, and a few others are already there. Blackrock is one of the “joinable clans” during the Orc Heritage Armor questline. Others are Frostwolf, Shattered Hand, Bleeding Hollow, and Warsong.
If you’re talking about those living in Blackrock Spire who were Nefarion’s minions…
Who knows? 
EDIT: Oops, I forgot the Dragonmaw is there as well
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You mean the Dark Horde specifically and not the Blackrock Clan. I wish the Horde would recruit them, yes. They have Trolls too.
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It might best to leave them neutral. That way If they need a Bad Orcs that are not Horde proxy they have one on hand.
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Seeing how 10.7 reestablished them as a proper clan within the New Horde , one you can join as a player (unlike the very small clans like the Burning Blade or the virtually extinct ones like the Shadowmoon), it’s likely that at least a significant portion of the Blackrock are currently Horde-aligned.
As for the remnants of the Dark Horde… Seriously, what could these guys possibly do ? Everyone hates their guts and they’d be considered pariahs anywhere else on the planet. The only option left for them is to join the Horde (since the Horde is historically comfortable with welcoming pariah factions into its ranks, even the ones they’ve been at odds with). Blackrock, Ogres, Firetree, Smolderthorn… To hell with the Dark Horde, have all of them join the New Horde and be done with it.
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Dragonmaw were considered bad too yet they joined us.
Yes thank you.
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I suppose there’s always got to be a group of “bad orcs” for players to go punch for fun and loots. Just like there’s always got to be a group of bad humans (Scarlet Brotherhood), Bad Tauren (Grimtotem), etc.
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Dark Iron Dwarfs were bad too but after Thaurissian fell Moira had them join the alliance. If anything this is just to keep the balance in power in the region and avoid it to completley taken over by the alliance. And it is a way to justify the Orcs finally being able to use the grey skin on playable characters.
Good Gawd, I’m suddenly imagining if the Dark Horde Blackrock orcs did join with the Horde. You’d have the Blackrock Spire orcs and the Blackrock Depth dark irons at war over the mountain, same as they were back in vanilla, only now it would be a Horde vs Alliance battle as well.
Could make for fun times.
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There are Horde Grimtotem though. Again, as I said, the Horde will mostly not care about how bad your deeds were in the past as long as you can provide some strike force and you genuinely wish to put it in the service of the Horde for whatever reason. Magatha’s Grimtotem are still out there causing trouble, but who knows where the narrative’s going to take us honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the entire clan ended up having a slight change of heart after we defeat the Primalists and subsequently joined the Horde
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The Scarlets I’m fine with, but I’ve never been too fond of villain-batting an entire tribe, or most of it anyway. I’d rather the rest of the Grimtotem join the Horde.
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Very few grimtotem joined the Horde. Alot of them are still out there, probably waiting to follow Magatha’s next evil plots.
I’m also curious how many of them followed Kurog and became primalists.
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The Scarlets were a minority of the humans. Nobody will miss them. But Grimtotem and Blackrock Clan were a huge portion of the original forces of that race. Blackrock were the largest clan on Draenor and always waged war on the Ogres, Grimtotem were the only Taure tribe with an edge and had their best warriors which is why they had it easy to take over Thunderbluff. If Baine had died that day they would still rule the tauren race.
Grimtotem suck. Those jerks sold out to the Alliance during Cata for a time to try and gain an edge and even that wasn’t enough. I’m still annoyed they forced that nasty old cow on us shamans during Legion.
I’m always glad to grind those f&#$*rs into a hamburger happy meal.
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Well we have a replacement ready for Magatha if they are actually see reason to not being evil anymore in the form of Jevan Grimtotem. But even without him Magatha had an explaination ready to us:
"Though Baine may have exiled me from Thunder Bluff, I am the leader that the tauren need. They sit idly by in their tents, waiting for the Alliance and the Legion to effortlessly roll over them. My people and I refuse to let that happen to us. We do what we must to survive.
The Legion has attacked. The Grimtotem need me. Will you help, or will you get in the way?"
And the general rule in this universe is if the evil leader is gone the rest of the group regains their sanity. Otherwise the entire Horde would be dead by now.
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In-game Eastern Kingdoms is in Cataclysm timeline, but lore wise we know that sometime after Deathwing’s death the Blackrock Clan did rejoin the Horde after Garrosh granted them amnesty. And despite many like Malkorok siding with Hellscream during Mists, the orc heritage quest chain did not only reveal that the Blackrock remain with the Horde under Eitrigg but that players could actually join them.
It actually currently unknown if there is an outside Blackrock clan not within the Horde. Though I kind of wonder if Blizzard would actually have the Blackrock split or just make it more firm. Like the Blackrock clan is established as firmly Horde, while any that didn’t join revived the Black Tooth Grin clan.
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