But on a more serious note, with the whole nature of world souls, the body of a titan as we know it might just be a shell with the actual essence of the Titan being the world soul itself. Rebuild the chassis, the soul hops in and is “reborn” into the material world.
Which might be a reason Azeroth has shown no interest in emerging/hatching/etc. Why kill us all so she can repurpose the planet’s material for a body when we already are her eyes/ears/hands/etc. which might be anathema to the other Titans.
Yes, but rebuild infers something which was already a Titan. The only errant/broken titan we know of would be Sargeras… so did they intend to reboot him as their champion again?
Pitting sarg against an inevitable void lord does a few things.
Sets the scope for the void lords, size and strength.
rationalizes leaving sarg alive in the story anyway.
pulls sarg off his crusade because now he has to save his biggest concern head on, so maybe even us teaming up with a shattered legion.
allows us to engage with a void lord if sarg comes out and weakens one. Or maybe we go blow one up like Death Star (good marketing foreshadowing if that’s the case).
No… she has never demonstrated any love for Aqir. She has never demonstrated a love for sentient mortals. She likes plants and animals that will kill each other as part of her gardening instinct and not create any cities or free will or civilizations. That is villainous. The time rift for an alternate universe version of Ulderoth proved that to us.
Unfortunately that is exactly what they have done with Elune so far in Legion/BFA/SL… and Elune was either completely absent in DF or involved in evil with Amirdrassil stealing the dragon aspects away from the Titan defense plan while not showing herself anywhere in the quest campaign. I’m not saying I like or prefer that writing… I’m just saying that is what they have put in game.
What exactly did you want her to do? The Aqir was planning on wiping all other life for their old god masters. I expect Eonar has the same stance as Alexstrasza. That she didnt want to kill but wont hesitate to do to so to protect life.
She calls the sentient mortals her “children”.
Essence of Eonar says: Time grows short. The enemy closes in. Approach me and stand ready, my children. The final battle is at hand
That’s not my job. Nor is it Eonar’s… because she didn’t make the claim. You did. The “ALL forms of life” claim that you made doesn’t fit.
None of us are her children, and she said that in little old lady slang…because she wants something from us that doesn’t belong to her. Which is fitting, given she said that when she was tricking us into freeing her. Or pretending to free her, if the theories about why Eonar was never captured by Sargeras are true. Also, Aman’thul refers to us as “Children of Azeroth” …so either it is a figure of speech, or Eonar lied.
I was being retorical. You can love all life as a concept and be its guardian(again like the red dragon) and not neccesarily mean you have to have an opinion on all of them specifically.
Like it or not, most if not all life owe their existance to Eonar. She is key to why Azeroth was saved because she helped convince the rest of the Pantheon to save Azeroth.
Titans do not see things as created until they bring order to it. So her actions to order primordial life would in the Titan view make her the mother of all life.
Being rhetorical means you were not telling the truth. So… Eonar does “not” love all life. Neither does the red dragonflight, neither does Alexstrasza.
Totally false. Eonar never created all life in the great dark, let alone starting any of the life on Azeroth. The life on Draenor was there when Eonar never was, and before Aggramar arrived. The life on Argus was there when Eonar never was, and before Sargeras arrived. The life on Karesh was there when Eonar never was, and before Dimensius consumed it. The life on Azeroth was here not only before Eonar ever arrived, but also before the Old Gods arrived. Furthermore, Aman’thul saved Azeroth because he believes in doing so…he never needed Eonar to convince him of that. From what we have seen so far, Eonar is never the “Life Creator” … she is a “Life Binder” …attaching life that somebody else created, enslaving life that somebody else created, or modifying life that somebody else created. All of our descriptions of her and behavior that we have seen so far is consistent with her having the potential for villainy.
Is it subversion? It’s not like we’re strangers to taking out Titan constructs and systems that are either corrupted or fulfilling their designated purpose. I don’t really recall anything that deems the Titans as altogether good so much as just… preferable most of the time, when arrayed against the majority of the other forces in the cosmos. But I could be forgetting something.
They don’t have to be cartoonishly evil for us to oppose them. They just have to adhere to a sense of order and structure that’s too rigid for Azeroth’s denizens.
That being said, with the whole premise of the expansion being described as,
In The Last Titan , events relating to Azeroth’s world-soul may spiral wildly out of control in spite of players’ efforts in the preceding chapters. Players will return to Northrend, specifically Ulduar, and witness the titans’ return to Azeroth as well as uncover a vast conspiracy stretching through the history of the world, one that challenges everything previously thought known about the intentions of the titans and the true nature of Azeroth.
The character of the Titans will definitely be brought into question, but there’s no telling what exactly this “vast conspiracy” is just yet. We might even lose the Midnight expansion, and require the Titan’s aid to fix whatever the damage is.
Again both literally love live and abhor its lost. And in Eonar’s particular case she does not simply love the natural/non-intelligent ones.
Most life IN AZEROTH. And yes, she is responsible for most biological life on Azeroth because as per Khadgar all life traces their origins to either 1) the trapped elementals 2) the old god corruption 3) Eonar and the
Emerald Dream 4) the curse of flesh.
You are wrong. It was actually Aggramar who urges the titans to take action before all hope was lost. Then it was Eonar who championed Aggramar cause and it was her words that ultimately persuaded the rest of the titans to save Azeroth both for the practical reason that she could be their greatest champion and more importantly because she was their family.
Algalon was going to wipe us clean off the map, and Odyn, the keeper specifically set in charge by the Titans is heavily controlling and at best just doesn’t care about mortals since his vaunted Valarjar didn’t do crap against any of the world ending threats that arose ever since we unlocked his front door for him.
We have shown (and will likely continue to show) that we are able to channel the sheer power of Azeroth herself, and I don’t see the Titans, or at least Aman’thul being cool with that given how chaotic our little murderhoboes are.
I feel like this is just a flaw in Blizzard story telling in general, most of the time big armies like that aren’t landing any noteworthy blows against foes, its either players or noteworthy characters.
Also the same reason we aren’t meant to think the Argent Crusade or Ebon Blade just don’t actually care about protecting Azeroth just because they weren’t involved in the wars against Deathwing or the Iron Horde. It’s also the unfortunate nature of “expansion-specific faction” syndrome, where each time a new threat justifies the primary story of an expansion, tailor-made NPC factions get conjured up to spearhead the response, while entirely serviceable organizations who should also logically have plenty of investment in seeing these threats quelled as well just remain absent.
At this point the expansions have produced so many NPC factions to protect the planet against each encroaching existential threat that most of them have to remain shelved and just not react to new threats most of the time or the central narrative of the expansion would end up taking a back seat to just accounting for every group that should logically be mobilized every time another Big Bad comes knocking (see: the Earthen Ring not having any significantly organized presence in response to the Primalists.)
Legion’s particularly guilty of it because the expansion basically spawned and/or expanded 12 entire “planetary defense” factions, one for each player class, and then ever since Legion ended they’ve almost all just sat in the background not getting involved in anything else while players’ efforts to face subsequent threats are backed by new groups that are thematically tailored to the newer enemies.
Far more likely that Azeroth herself becomes a Titan. Word Souls have the capability to become Titans. Azeroth has been described as a nascent titan before. I assume The Last Titan shows the rest of the transformation.