Will Blizzard jump ship after 9.1, pull a WoD maneuver?

Revendreth honestly feels like home.
Personally I feel the urge to never purchase another expansion.
That “Fish Out of Water” sensation disappeared but I’ve noticed the opposite effect occurred with everyone who felt at home on Azeroth.

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You put MoP and Wod in the same sentence, BLASPHEMY . MoP was hands down the 2nd best expansion next to WOTLK, and classes were actually fun back then!.

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Oribos is the pinnacle of anti-comfy.

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That started more than a year ago. Their planners should have adapted to this and gotten more resources if that’s what they needed to churn out content by now.

We will see…

I hope they do. System lands has pushed me back to classic. Pull the rip cord and let’s move on to the next expansion please

Unfortunately, everything you’ve earned or enjoy will either be nerfed into oblivion or outright taken away from you when the next expansion arrives, so you can, in Ion’s words, “graduate” to something Blizzard thinks you should be doing.

And Blizzard’s attempts to shape the narrative on that - all the “does anyone really want to level another race or learn another class because it would make things more complicated and confusing” stuff - seem to have fallen on deaf ears.

It was the best expansion, period. Disclaimer: started in early Cata :wink:

But Brack and others have repeatedly told us that not only have they easily adapted to working from home, they’re supposedly THRIVING at it…

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Doesnt matter to me. After the poopshow that 8.0 and 9.0 were I wont be playing 10.0. They were told in beta for both of the issues and they chose to pull the ol’ “you just dont know whats good” routine both times.

This whole “We know whats best” then the about face in the .1 patch of “Were sorry, we should have listed” is already old. I wont play another garbage .0 patch and then have to wait a year for them to do their compromise schtick where they only half fix it because they want to try and save face due to incompetence. And im not going to come back a year into an xpac when raid spots are full and I have to spend time catching up to everyone else.

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No, lol. Anyone who unironically believes this is falling for doomsayering that happens on these forums every expansion.

Like again – for how much people rally around Legion – these forums were literally saying it was dead during 7.0

The shtick gets old.

What I find most disappointing about all of this, is that I thought we were going to get flying early for a change, but nope…

No, I don’t at least.
Captain nipples is stupid.

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I just get a feeling that SL is gonna last at least 4 years

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What do you mean? He’s a very compelling villain with a unique motivation of wanting to collect the three Mother Boxes to bring about the Unity and reorder life in the universe. I mean he wants to collect the six Infinity Stones to snap his fingers and reorder life in the universe. I mean he wants to collect the five Covenant Keys to unlock his chains and reorder life in the universe.


Heck, even that comparison is unfair to both Darkseid and Thanos, Zovaal has like an eighth of the pull of those two larger-than-life figures.

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As someone that loved bfa…I agree with you. It’s not a good sign when I’m seeing the same sort of shift in community attitudes.

I think they’re way under staffed. (That’s my guess). From what I understand - they’re working on a massive project over there - and most likely lost a ton of their team to it :face_with_head_bandage:

By all means, feel free to contact Blizzard if you have a plan superior to all others.

No? Then cope with it like the rest of us are.

The Jailer is based on Hades, the Ancient Greek God of the Underworld. Also known as Jailer of the Dammed. Although most cosmic bad guys have some plan or other to rearrange the universe, it’s a common trope.

Neat. He may be based on Hades, but he sure as heck hasn’t earned the title himself.

I suppose depending on how the rest of the expansion is structured there’s still enough time to tell his story and suitably build him up. But at the current time, there’s really not much there.

Shadowlands is the expansion of double edged swords. It’s a blessed relief to not have to log in to a second job like BFA was, however, in the making of that, they forgot to give us anything to do if we DO want to log in. It’s just a different problem rather than solving problems.

It seems to be the way with Blizzard, every gift comes with a sting, every win manages to contain a chewy centre of disappointment. Given the complexity of MMOs as a genre you and I might like/hate 70/30 of the decisions but it’s a fair bet they are not going to be the same 70/30.

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probably not a bad idea, 9.1 is already taking to long and judging by the lack of actual content and imo bland big highlights at blizzcon it will not be that great of a patch, and its taking this long for 9.1 then what will 9.2 be? 2022? nothing is going to fix this bad expansion its best to WOD it and move on. but at this point i don’t care blizzard just doesn’t listen to the community if they did then SL wouldn’t be such a piece of garbage.

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For me, Shadowlands is suffering several pain points. Lack of content is a big one, obviously. But the world feels disjointed. Traveling between zones sucks.

The user interface is cumbersome and overly complicated for Covenants.

They ruined world quests with the odd, mandatory nature of picking up a physical quest before going to do emissaries. Why even put that barrier there?

PvP, one of my favorites, is all burst meta to such an extreme that it just feels completely in accessible.

Covenant abilities are limited, compared to the multitude of cool and collectible abilities given by the Heart of Azeroth that you could change at any time (yes, I liked the HoA’s design by the end of BFA).

Transmog is limited by the Covenant you are in, so there are less things you can go and collect.

Anima is a chore. It isn’t interesting. It needs a catch-up multiplier or I just honestly don’t care to participate in it. So, yea, I haven’t. It’s just not fun. That is my choice.

In fact, there are just so many chores I finally clocked out to wait for the next patches and pop in to see my friends on occasion.

Reward vs the difficulty of content are ridiculously out of whack. The amount of cooperation and learning involved to kill raid bosses vs mythic+ is ridiculous for the same base ilvl 200 rewards on Normal difficulty. Whereas you can go roll your head on a keyboard for a guaranteed ilvl 200 in any mythic +2 on Tuesday (I think normal raid difficulty needs to be made even easier, or raise the reward ilvl).

The Maw is boring, a bit of a slog. It isn’t visually interesting to me personally, and it feels incoherent in how it was designed. Ven’ari is a little cool, but the rep grind is a slog (I yield that Blizzard did have the foresight to make her rewards account-wide at least).

The Covenant hall side things like the anima conductor, the mission table, etc, are completely wasted dev resources on a player like me. I don’t do them at all. They aren’t interesting to me.

Things I could have liked to see this expansion? Consequences to the faction war. Players being able to group cross-faction, just like we should have been when we overcame our faction identities and fought back the Legion.

What else would I like to see? Real, truly realized player housing. Not garrison. A house I can choose as a plot somewhere and collect decorations for. Guild housing. True, evergreen features that exist as persistently updated pieces of the game.

What else? Go back to class focus. I loved Order Halls in Legion. I like feeling like my class, living that fantasy.

Get rid of the PvP burst meta. God help me, even go back to scaling. This is ridiculous and rather than participate I, like many players, hit my 1800 rating and retired because it simply isn’t fun.

Torghast is something I hope they keep in some capacity going forward as an evergreen feature. But not in its current iteration. The idea of queueing up and killing stuff with broken powers is still exciting, and Torghast as a blast for me at first. There are lots of directions they could go with it. Maybe implement speed versions of old dungeons with the powers and add cosmetic rewards, or maybe such a thing of old raids. Go in, blow stuff up alone with or friends for fun, unlock cosmetics. Maybe housing pieces? Trophies? Who knows. But making it integral to whatever content is current is a surefire failure. It has to be evergreen.

Enable timewalking for every zone as a permanent toggle freature regardless of level. If I leveled to 60 in the current expansion, let me level to 60 anywhere I want on other toons. Period.

The game is in bad shape. I’m ready for 10.0.

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