Will Ashes of Creation Spur WoW innovation?

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Watched Lazy Peons video about AoC, and a lot looks good. I like all the innovation about nodes and their systems to create a world/player ecosystem.
I hope this pushes Blizz to innovate WoW, maybe for the expansion following SL.

Torghast is innovative for WoW, but I would like more world stuff. They mentioned how some parts of the zone will be affected by your progression, hope this is cool.
More stuff like this for WoW!
Others thoughts?

Edit: like adding something similar to their node system to a WoW zone. Not exactly like how AoC does it, but something that players can contribute to and see a change. Like a shared garrison for a zone.

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No. This game is in maintenance mode. I remember getting suckered in by warfronts. They looked amazing. The reality showed me that the dev team either lacks the ability or resources to innovate well.

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The thing is AoC is supposed to be a largely player driven game, while WoW is primarily story driven. They don’t compare well on the whole.

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Our definitions of maintenance mode vary greatly lol

And no, OP, I have no idea why people think an overzealous action mmo will have any bearing on a tab target mmo, they attract different types of people.

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Maintenance mode is when an MMO is no longer receiving content updates, but the servers are being maintained. WoW is not in maintenance mode.

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only if aoc actually turns out to be good and becomes real competition. there is no need to innovate when no one is competing with you on the same level.

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Until there’s actual legitimate competition. no blizzard will continue to do what they want.

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Ashes of Creation needs a producer. They’re just throwing system after system after system. I get the sense they just want to work on a game rather than create a deliverable.

Like, just make a game that’s fun to play with a few really good core systems I care about. I don’t need religion and politics in an MMO, lol. It seems like they want to capture some of that Eve Online community but Eve Online players will never move on from their game. Certainly not a fantasy MMO with raiding and what-not.

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No. Its a game produced by a rinky dink studio that’s one sneeze away from non-existence. The game is alpha and maybe 6-12 months away (at least) from being released and actually earning money for this studio. If this studio’s funding runs out, no game.

Games closer to being “never were” don’t make waves.

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It’s a passion project by a multimillionaire, it’s more likely to at least be released then a lot of random projects

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I hear about AoC so much I feel like it’s the same guy pushing an agenda, and OP having 1 post (this one) doesn’t help my tin foil hat to go away. If this is some AoC affiliated guy I just want you to know you’re annoying and I hope your game blows up.

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Final Fantasy?

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Nope.

I also watched Lazy Peon’s video, and while the ideas sound very ambitious, we didn’t actually see any of it in action.

I’m skeptical of any game that is heavily reliant on PvP with consequences for losing, and this looks like it will be fantasy Eve in a lot of ways.

WoW’s problem isn’t innovation, it’s that the devs double down on some of their bad ideas no matter how much feedback they receive.

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The consequences for losing appear to only be related if you are the kind of person who goes around killing non-combatants and lower levels to get yourself corrupted.

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I’m just gonna play it, i don’t really care if WoW dies or not, let people enjoy mcdonald’s while I go to five guys

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I’m referring to how PvE revolves around nodes that can be destroyed via PvP.

We’re still missing details, but there’s a pretty good chance that caravans which are pvp zones will be pretty important to an economy.

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I don’t think AOC is in the same genre. It seems more like a fantasy EVE with less griefing, but a focus on player driven economy and stuff. That’s not even in the same ballpark as WoW as far as who it appeals to.

I haven’t done too much research into it and I’m hearing a lot but I think it’s appealing to a totally difference type of player and will have little or no overlap on WoW. I might check it out but a PVP focused game I have zero interest in since I hate PVP.

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It may incentive Blizzard to make covenants freely swappable. With many people being put off by it and not purchasing Shadowlands - Ashes of Creation will make a nice replacement.

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the one that was so bad that they fired the entire team and hired a new one to remake the game? it may become competition but it isn’t there yet.

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Estimates of wow’s population hover around 2.5 mil

Estimates of FF’s population at SB launch was around 2 mil

No one gives numbers but it’s definitely competition in the sub based MMO department.

They didn’t fire the whole team FYI, just the directors and that was back in the early 2010s, its turned into an extremely successful sub based mmo, because it has taken a queue from WoW instead of the FFXI based MMO the original directors wanted.

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