Why'd We Get Rid Of PvP Ilvl Scaling?

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Never made sense to me, why is it that you aren’t able to just immediately pvp? Not only is it intimidating for new players to learn all 30+ specs abilities and what to be scared of and all the basic mechanics of PvP they also have to farm out tons of gear that takes quite a while. I feel like scaled PvP ilvl is just a better choice. I have two friends that wanted to PvP but walked in and got one shot because they only have PvE gear, that’s two people that we lost because they were too intimidated by the gear difference.

The most popular games all have modes where you can just jump in and play, why does WoW not do this?

The only reason I could see someone not wanting scaled ilvl is because they think back to Legion when you couldn’t choose stats. Simple solution: let people choose their stats for PvP.

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Yeah I’ma be real with you.

Stats weren’t the reason people didn’t like templates in Legion.

While templates are good for just game and go type stuff, it really just makes the game extremely 1D and rock paper scissors since everyone’s damage template is generally the same.

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Really? That’s all I remember anyone complaining about back then. Aside from the bad balancing but that’s a different story for another time.

Not really it would just be like at the end of a season of every PvP season when everyone has conq gear. The only difference is that you don’t have the miserable grind.

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legion templates were so close to what we needed.

Just add some sliders so we can control secondary stats and that would have been the best ever.

Instead pushback from losers that probably all play classic now brought us into BFA. One of the worst expansions for PvP gearing ever.

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Scaling exists in Blitz.

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You’ve always immediately been able to pvp.

PvE gear isn’t even really that big of a disadvantage, or sometimes isn’t one, especially when getting started considering how easy it is to get 486+ in so many slots this season.

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The cobalt assembly rings and apparently some trinkets can be pretty op in there :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Yeah you can immediately pvp if you want to have a miserable time.

Man he just said his friends got crushed and didn’t want to get crushed again and you kinda just went ‘nuh uh’? Just because its relatively easier to gear up in pve or whatever doesn’t mean they didn’t get destroyed and now our pool of combatants diminishes by two more.

That’s a tragedy, not an opportunity for debate

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I mean, if we were all force scaled to 489 then the outcome likely wouldn’t have changed.

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What was the thought process that brought you to this conclusion?

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Because the majority of topics are just variations of “i lost a match and lost rating, fix it”, “i lost, it was gear, fix it” and “i lost, the spec that killed me is op, fix it”.

Somebody getting killed instantly by another player isn’t because of a few ilevs.

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Because the lack of in-game training tools? Because of the lottery-style class balance?

You are right, my furry little snack, but that just proves the system is not fine.

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But gear is a valid reason though.

ILVL matters a lot. Getting honor gear is incredibly easy but the first 10 or so bgs you do without it are pretty miserable wouldn’t you agree?

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But they ARE getting killed instantly and that sucks.

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Just Because the community isn’t correct about what needs to be fixed does not mean there aren’t problems

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buy 463 honor gear from the ah? and if you don’t have gold ur just pure afk you can easily make 10-20k a week just doing sum world quests

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Lost Ark pvp is better on that aspect…

  • You don’t need max level, only do the campaign up to first capital.
  • Gear doesn’t matter
  • PvP has its own template/talent tree
  • The player is given an amount of stat points he can allocate how he wants

The last point is what was bad with templating that was like take this 25% of each stats …

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wow players are weird they only want to grind gear then they just quit playing been this way for years

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Sure…Throw some gold at it.

That does solve a lot of problems in pvp these days! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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I swear almost every suggested change to the game is “let me finish my goal sooner so I can quit”. :dracthyr_crylaugh:

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