Why would u play with an arms warrior?

well ya he’s hardstuck cause warriors oppress his dh

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Dh can stop multiple goes with detainment darkness and reverse Magic ontop of the ret stopping multiple goes with bop bubble sanc sac.

Rotate this with cacoon and revival and this comp should live for a LONG time while having much more lethal damage than ret warr

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Not to be pedantic but if you play reverse and detainment talent you are missing one of two really valuable default locks

yea because warrior is so unplayably bad it can’t get out of the 1500 bracket

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Toxic, let that man live!

Holy bait thank god all I read was ignored content but that title alone makes me cringe. The gaslighting guild is out in full force

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no trolling here buddy what makes u think warrior is so powerful? (clearly arms isnt BAD, but thinking its like some insane god tier spec is crazy)

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I think there’s some very real truth to the fact that warrior is relatively weaker than other melee in 3s atm. To be clear, I’m not saying that war is weak, but it does lack comparative killing pressure relative to every other melee dps. This is even more pronounced with the recent increased health pools that makes warrior damage rot even less effective at securing kills.

I think it could have some of its bleed damage relegated to higher mortal strike/execute top-end damage.

I don’t think warrior is “bad”, but I think it’s worse in the meta than almost every other melee dps despite having some pretty insane tools to enable dps.

Atm it feels like the control offered by rogue and the damage offered by dh are more impactful than p much any other utility imo.

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arms being A tier is fine i dont think many warriors think the spec isnt competitive on ladder but i for one would welcome a damage redistribution

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To be completely honest, I’m not upset that for the first season since bfa I’m not seeing a warrior every other game. That being said, no class should ever not be viable despite previous success.

I think it’s totally fine to say that warrior isnt bad… but if its worse than like every other melee, at what point does it become bad?

I feel like the only comps war can really play atm are tsg and turbo. Thunder and war+mage may be good too, but i haven’t seen anyone play them.

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warrior comps are just better when u replace the warrior haha but theyre still viable for sure

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I think they just need to tighten the damage range of mortal strike. It shouldn’t hit for 35k but also shouldn’t hit for 350k. Perhaps tune the two stack overpower talent to be lower and buff the base ms dam to compensate.

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i hate martial prowess, ms should just hit hard all the time, issue is there are alot of ms resetting talents so theyd have to go otherwise ms is just gonna chonk chonk chonk global after global

DH ele feels infinitely better than thunder

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oh it is buddy :sob:

They already did that, it does almost nothing in pvp atm. MS is just extremely weak.

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So does every post you make when I read it. But here we are again. You up to 3k games played yet, bro?

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The issue is more complicated than MS just being weak. I will again refer back to the range, the low end and high end numbers on that spell are too far and whatever modifiers are making this happen need attention so they can subsequently buff the base pvp modifier on MS.

The DH can be 300 rating under a warrior and the dh would be better. They are incentivized to just gas pedal and are rewarded for it. You have enough self saves you don’t need to leap back like a war does. Glimpse, dark, immolate dispel, prison and the 5% more dmg they give the ele

Like sharpen and intervene are cool and all but have you considered just killing their team in a meta cleave prim wave go?

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i think the bigger issue to warrior is just whats good in the meta rn, not just the strength of warrior or lack thereof