Why were in-game GMs removed?

[Jinday-ravencrest]

@Lorina-bloodsail-buccaneers

I do however think that people who abuse reporting/flagging frivolously should have the privilege of doing so taken away, for what little that’s worth.

Sadly they support Blizzards direction and idea so ofc devs will be on their side regardless. And I guarantee you I can name those people who Flagg non stop.

[Discipleb-darkspear]

@Garmuck-destromath

Just curious why this happened.

Because in-game GMs didn’t do anything to generate money for Blizzard, and Blizzard also had to pay them a salary. They aren’t cost-effective, and so they were axed. Pretty simple stuff.

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

@Despitebeing-incendius

In short, you don’t have the information to make this claim.

every time someone comes here screaming about GMs “not doing their job”, if (and that’s a BIG if) we’re able to get the person to explain the reason why they’re throwing a tantrum, it’s always over something a GM can’t help with.

@Despitebeing-incendius

My complaint is a long-standing issue with more facets to it than a buggy line of code and beyond the scope of this conversation.

i’m sure most legit players would be happier if banwaves happened more frequently.

[Despitebeing-incendius]

@Nobully-blackrock

screaming

@Nobully-blackrock

they’re throwing a tantrum

That’s a gross mischaracterization of the contributions made by genuine posters ITT. The discourse has been civil with the vast majority of deviants landing in the camp opposing the OP’s sentiments. In a word: projection, perhaps not of your individual views, but of the knee-jerk antagonism to the OP.

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

@Despitebeing-incendius

That’s a gross mischaracterization of the contributions made by genuine posters ITT.

it was absolutely zero relation to anyone in this thread.

it was a reference to people who come to GD and start threads about how terrible GMs are, because they won’t do things which will result in them risking their jobs.

[Dojacàt-moon-guard]

@Garmuck-destromath

I don’t see how it’s such a financial burden on a company that makes billions.

Tell me you never run a company without telling me you never run a company.

[Anastrasza-argent-dawn]

$20 hr (not in todays terms so much) but fifteen years ago for just helping people in a game seems like a great gig for some side money.

[Nickaeladin-thrall]

I found these answers on the forums.

Source

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@Akston-area-52

Yeah but min wage is 15.50 in Cali. Where its pretty easy to find something getting more. And we already love to bash Blizzard for lowpaying its employees.

Only, most, if not all, GMs are located in Austin, TX where our minimum wage is still $7.25/hr. (Ridiculous I know!)

[Despitebeing-incendius]

The labryinth of federal+individual state tax codes may provide credits towards Acti-blizz for offering employment/internship opportunities, especially if they targetted first-time workers, disabled persons, veterans, or folks on assistance plans/etc. The company is big enough that if they wanted to justify the cost, they would.

[Siameren-lightnings-blade]

Simple answer, they became too “flashy”.

Instead of doing their job, a lot of them would do whatever they could to impress the players to get their GM name on a website list of “cool GM’s that do cool things”.

They would spawn bosses in towns or raids for players to fight, and mess with raids by ccing people on their ruin to the next boss ect. Or teleport people around for fun.

They were making the costumes happy rather than doing their actual job.

So Blizz eventually started not hiring more after people would leave, then they just removed the position all together.

There’s a good video on YouTube about this exact subject.

I don’t remember what it’s called or by who but just search “what happened to wow gm’s” and I’m sure you’ll find it.

[Haldex-proudmoore]

Worst Genie ever

[Despitebeing-incendius]

@Nickaeladin-thrall

Austin, TX where our minimum wage is still $7.25/hr. (Ridiculous I know!)

My understanding is that number is the federally-set minimum wage, as in, the absolute lowest any employer in the nation could legally go. Individual states(/counties/cities?) can enforce a higher minimum wage but nothing can drop below that $7.25 (excluding jobs that incorporate tips/etc). My experience with this subject is next to nothing but I want to say Austin compels its employers to pay their workers more.

[Nickaeladin-thrall]

Texas only adopts the Federal minimum wage. Most businesses in Austin probably pay more because the living wage is higher, but the law can’t compel them to.

Well, nvm that. I just found the law they passed recently.

[Obanick-hyjal]

Bobby needed another yacht so they got cut? I mean relocated. Yeah that’s the word.

[Rigatoní-area-52]

I wish they still logged in, it’d make my day a bit more interesting.

[Lunkel-garona (Lunkel)]

I miss the days when I picked up my rotary dial phone and was connected with a real live switchboard operator who would then connect me to my intended call. It was more fun and immersive having that human interaction. I could ask them how their day was or comment about the weather.

[Saángreal-moon-guard (Saángreal)]

My grandmother had to yell at the neighbors to get off the party line because she had to make an important call.

Can you imagine sharing a phone call with 10 strangers or neighbors lol.

[Mktaar-moonrunner]

Cutting costs. They have that automated system in check so that they don’t have to pay a salary or whatever to keep a human in charge of what the automation systems currently do.

It is pretty much corporate greed and nothing more.

[Aurynn-kelthuzad]

because they require paychecks

[Despitebeing-incendius]

The paychecks would be for positions that will, hopefully, improve customer satisfaction and boost overall merchandise sales.