There’s already a canonical multi-planet killer that atoned to become an inquisitor in Revendreth, though.
Just a WAG, but could it have anything to do with the fact her death in Icecrown was a suicide?
Every soul gets judged by the Arbiter. Only the most completely beyond irredeemable souls get sent to the Maw.
The most reasonable explanation for Sylvanas’ fate was that frostmourne marked its victims to go straight to the Maw upon death, bypassing the Kyrians and the Arbiter.
Since such a thing would have been the main purpose for the Jailer making the Mourneblade and sending it to Azeroth in the first place.
question is, did he destroy them in murderous revenge lust to the point of even killing his own allies during that revenge planet destroying trip?
or did he just destroy them for pride reasons (i.e. garrosh) or reasons of war (honorable/excusable)?
She wasn’t. She didn’t even get that far.
I’m assuming it had something to do with her being soulless, essentially.
Arthas stole it from her, so I can only imagine that the Jailer had it once Frostmourne absorbed it and used it against her.
I dunno, but I can quote the bits the game does give.
Zill’kee the World Reaper (Inquisitor Stelia)
well there you go, it doesn’t provide any context to the reasons for the killings.
You gotta keep in mind that intent matters… if they destroyed whole planets because it was during warfare or other reasons other than pure malice and cold revenge (like sylvanas) then that can be the reason why they didn’t end up in the maw regardless of the death toll under their belt. This is why Garrosh didn’t go to the maw even though he bombed Theramore, because it was done as a preemptive strike against an opposing wartime faction/enemies. His intent was valid and not done as revenge or cold malice, instead fueled by pride and what they believed was just.
The intent seems pretty clear to me that her only motivation was because she enjoyed suffering and wanted to perfect it. You see it in lines 1, 5, and 7.
I doubt they’d go down that route. That’s a giant insult to people that struggle with suicidal thoughts.
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The other thing too which we both didn’t mention is there’s also Frostmourne.
There are no known victims of Frostmourne anywhere in the Shadowlands, the spirits of those who were killed by Frostmourne were trapped in Frostmourne and once it was shattered seemed to remain on Azeroth as spirits rather than going to the Shadowlands.
The only exception to this was Uther who exploited the light to split his soul or whatever happened in that cinematic… otherwise there’d be countless thousands upon thousands of victims of the Lich King in the Shadowlands and they’d know that the power of the Maw exists on Azeroth long before Uther.
So simply put, any victims of the Lich King were trapped on Azeroth, and any that were killed on Azeroth after that point (i.e. Sylvanas), got a one way ticket to the Maw due to their souls being bound/tied to the maw as a result of the Runeblade’s curse.
Alexandros Mograine went to Maldraxxus and he was in the sword
I’m still not sure if Uther’s dying prayer actually had anything to do with his soul splitting. If I remember correctly, some Blizzard interview hoped that people would focus on that and start wondering who else could have a split soul as well wink-wink nudge-nudge.
I do think that the angels that picked up her post-suicide soul were jailer minions all along, who intercepted her the same way Uther did with Arthas. In Sylvanas’s short story, she’s specifically held in a sort of limbo state while they try to talk her into returning to the living world, and when she refuses, they give her a taste test of what’s now the Maw. If those were legit Kyrians, they would have just had her Arbitrated like anybody else.
I think it would have to do with whern Frostmourne took her partial soul, turning her into a Banshee. Frostmourne, after all, a creation of the Jailer who resides in the Maw.
He’s been collecting souls since WC3: TFT.
He wasn’t killed by Frostmourne. Rather he was killed by his own sword, Ashbringer, wielded by one of his own sons corrupted by a dreadlord.
And furthermore, he wasn’t even raised as a DK by the Lich King, rather he was raised by Kel’thuzad.
However later when he was claimed by the Lich King during the battle of light’s hope, he was already dead or whatever he was, so there’s a technicality there or whatever that makes his death not by Frostmourne as he was already dead by Ashbringer, and killed again by us, the player characters when we killed him as a DK in Naxxramas.
And much like Uther, his soul could have been split, a portion/copy stuck on Azeroth and another sent to the Shadowlands as he too was a powerful light wielder (more powerful than Uther) and was killed by Ashbringer, a weapon imbued by his light.
Because not every soul is offered redemption. Some people go straight to the Maw. Also, the Maw is literally right above ICC, and its already been confirmed in the Shadowlands Art Book that she was snatched up by the Jailer’s Mawsworn.
Wasn’t he like bound in the Maw at that point and only broke free recently? Like in “Beyond The Veil”, he’s shown bound in the Maw with chains (the same chains that he broke that dangle alongside him now)
I thought Kel’Thuzad was alive when Arthas slew him. He was simply a necromancer, not undead, at least not until Arthas corrupted the sunwell to bring him back.
Also Sylvannas was turned Undead by Arthas, she never had the initial chance to be ‘accepted’ I don’t believe.
The countless other “deaths”… well, Blizzard gets “creative” with it.
Well, as others have pointed out in this thread, he didn’t have to do it personally, he had his Mawsworn grab her before the Kyrian could.
She was. The Arthas novel talks about her seeing golden fields and then being yanked away.
Which begs the question, why her? She was just trying to commit suicide. Plus she actually had to make a deal with the Valkyr released by Frostmourne to get out, she couldn’t even have him send her back or anything.