Why was this the Jailer's motive?

we need a loremaster to keep track of this storyline… with flowcharts… and graphs… many graphs.

9.2 ending in a multiverse cliffhanger and 10.0 being a “rescue kitty from three” would be hilarious.

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The only question I have is this… at the end of the Jailer cinematic, the hole above ice crown closed. Does this mean we are now stuck in the Shadowlands?

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Blizzard is not known for thinking ahead in game.

Especially when it comes to lore and story points.

I’m sure more handwavium will explain it somehow.

Just like the utterly nonsense way that Varian showed up to help Anduin.

At least Saurfang being there makes sense. Jailer kill raid cinematic.

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The Portals still remain according to Danuser. The Death Knights of the Ebon Blade will get to choose who comes and goes to the Shadowlands.

Big Shots and useful Businessmen can just waltz in when needed yet ordinary civilians aren’t permitted through the Portals.

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But would the portals still remain if the rift to the shadowlands closed? I don’t think so.
It wouldn’t make sense based on the lore that was told at the beginning.

They had the opportunity to actually do some good writing. We could have gone looking for Varian in the shadowlands so we could get his help with Anduin. Instead, they had this wacky FFXIV Heavensward scene that didn’t really make sense. Either Varian entered the shadowlands and was there, or his soul was completely destroyed by the fel. Having some spirit show up out of nowhere doesn’t hold water. :woman_shrugging:

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There’s a problem, thiks story is being written by the mental equivalent of a 3 year old so linking plots together will never work. They have hyped up void lords SO MUCH that anything less than the entire planet shattering will make it all for nothing.

Void lords will be kamehameha’d to death just like N’zoth, this company can’t even muster a wet fart anymore to try and make you care about anything.

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no… not really.

the draenei spaceship will save us.

unless… UNLESS… remember the statues of Stormwind representing the heroes who closed the Dark Portal from the other side? what if we now begin and expansion-long voyage home?

Druids and dk’s laugh as they go sorry (but not sorry) all you other mall walkers but see you suckers.

and poof they go.

What were his motives? It depends on when you drop into the plot.

  1. He wants to escape from the Maw.
  2. He wants to capture Korthia.
  3. He wants to capture and dominate various characters (he’s kinky that way).
  4. He wants to be powerful.
  5. He wants to get the Covenant leaders’ gems as his own gear is lacking.
  6. He wants to get to Zerith Mortis to get something from the Sepulcher. (Which is an odd name if you think about it, because a sepulcher is basically part of a graveyard where you inter bodies, like a tomb.)
  7. He wants to destroy reality and dominate everyone (although how you can do that if everything is destroyed was not really made clear).
  8. He wants to…warn us that if we think he’s bad, just wait till yous all see the Currently Unknown Adversary or Adversaries.

So what were his motives? Bagged if I know. Because it is apparently the right way to write the story of warcraft to be (a) illogical, (b) misleading and (c) rather badly written because nobody with any writing skill creates a storyline which springsa completely untelegraphed ultimate power and expects it to actually work.

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Please… NOOOOOO! But I wouldn’t put it past them for us to make some journey someplace on that spaceship.

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Since he’s a robot/creation of something, it’s more of a directive than a motive really.

I’m fine with the fact that he was a construct to be honest, that had potential… but there should have been some sort of scooby doo villain reveal (someone had created him with good intentions before the rest of the eternal ones came to be & was now saved by the heroes of azeroth defeating their out of control creation type deal - my pick would have been the primus but I digress).

Daddy D, Winter Queen, Primus… all constructs created by the first ones, then? And only the 1st arbiter went offside? Glad there is so much potential to revisit this story & answer some questions. COUGH nope COUGH

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just think of all the strange alien worlds we can meet along the way.

the dirt in this world is like none we’ve ever seen before.

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Passing the buck furthers the justification for making another expansion.

Ok…so a pantheon member old gods and the arbiter of death itself is afraid of void some reason…but I mean how strong could they be if they are Naru rivals and illidan solo killed one of them they cant be that big a threat.

If the void lords are really THAT powerful then they could have and should have destroyed all long ago… I dont buy it. I think they just ran out of villain motivation.
Its always “I’m trying to destroy you to save you” its dumb…its the 4th time now…

They are building up towards the “void lords” by having pretty much every villain be like “I must control/destroy everyone to take on the void lords”…and its being done terribly wrong.

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I still don’t understand Sylvanas’ behavior, from when she turned on everyone in BFA through her time serving the Jailer.
The Night Warrior storyline went nowhere, similar to the Dark One Emma from Once Upon a Time (The TV show).
Now the Jailer is suffering the same problems.

Things don’t have to be so complicated all the time. Arthas was mean and petty and wanted to become king of the world. The voice-over of his father–King Terenas–demonstrated how Arthas was fulfilling his father’s wishes, but in a demented, evil way.

What’s really sad is that I liked most of the other Shadowlands lore, even if it was a bit silly at times. I’d be Plague Deviser Marileth’s apprentice in the next expansion too.

I remember wanting that to be the end of WoD.
Getting thrown into the portal when Archimonde died. Being stranded on some distant world. Having to build up a hub city as a joint effort (similar building a garrison but as a shared hub city, like starting a WC3 map), befriending locals as a new race for each side. Finding a way back to Azeroth only to find it over ran by the Legion (legion expansion here). Having to reclaim zones by fighting off the legion and work with the Cenarion Circle to restore them etc.

Just because he’s created by a higher force, doesn’t mean he wasn’t given free will. We know he was since he rebelled. Same as the Marvel’s Eternals movie.

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When are we going to do something about the sword?

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But how will we fit a Mythic Plus season in that? Don’t you know we need content for our eSports?

Season 8 GoT - STILL a better story than Shadowlands.