Distracting people off the chain and into the lava with my rogue was good times.
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Your premise is flawed.
Wrath is inferior to Classic and TBC.
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That is a dumb point. I spent 2 years on a server from day 1 hour 1 with tons of community and lore to it and server drama and stories and just all the things that come with being on a server and now “don’t pick a mega server if your goal is to be known!” Way to skip over the entire point. This is the reality of TBC. Alliance refugees en masse. Stupid I even have to break it down to that extent but there you go.
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Exactly. Classic was just a better experience all together. I recognize the guild tag. This is Burp if you ever saw me around on herod haha.
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TBC is a pretty ‘hardcore’ expansion with the rep grinds, attunement, farming mats for bis, and keys. Plus some of the classes are still really boring to play. It was a trajectory that lead to a lot of burn out and kind of an anomaly in the games general trend later.
Wotlk will be much closer in popularity to classic.
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Of course you’re not wrong about what you like, I would never argue there, thats your opinion, but world pvp is alive and well on benediction, a balanced server, with flying.
My old server, Kromcrush, world pvp was dead, 80/20 horde at the time. Alliance never fought back, we hid in cities and instances and if you dared leave the safety of those you got camped 5v1. So the remaining alliance just left. Flying didn’t kill krom, faction imbalance did. World pvp was dead here in classic here too.
Flying doesn’t kill world pvp, growing imbalance on servers does, and it’s inevitable, because the pros of having more players of your faction to play with outweigh the pros of a balanced server.
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Yeah, sorry man but you just don’t like classic wpvp. Maybe you weren’t around the right people or you just aren’t that good at it. It’s okay. But as for me, I spent the entire expansion drowning people with my shadow priest friend, stuffing them in chimneys and smacking them every time they tried to hearthstone, camping yojambe isle, mind controlling people into the huge anubis boss in silithis as they were farming for their rockfury bracers, ganking in felwood, ganking in winterspring ekos, camping the chain on BRM and snatching people going to BWL and throwing them into the lava and then preventing them from getting to their raid unless they get a summon. dude I could go on and on and on and on. You don’t have the correct opinion because you don’t know what you’re missing. Cool. You’re part of the “99.9%” that doesn’t like it. I must know a ton of “0.1%” because I had a hell of a time in classic. Shoutout to all my wpvpers horde and alliance alike if you ever ran into Burp-Herod
edit: flying killed basically all of what I did btw. Not server balance. I’d rather be on a 10/90 A:H server than have flying mounts and that’s facts. (not that i like server imbalance, but if i had to choose)
So because I don’t agree with you my opinion is wrong?
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I love world pvp and was worried flying would ruin it, but it doesn’t really IMO. in fact it makes more opportunities, I love dropping down from the sky on unsuspecting people lol
“But realistically, 99.9% percent of us would be miserable living that life, and wed despise everything about it. That’s classic pvp.”
No. I’m saying THAT is wrong. Don’t speak for people other than yourself when you find it “miserable and toxic” it makes you sound oblivious. I know tons of people that absolutely love WPVP. I’ve made enemies that became friends because of long term PVP feuds. I simply don’t think you’re aware of what you’re missing.
I was referring to the gangster life and how it’s hyped and glorified by media lol. Same way world pvp was hyped up by streams as the only “real” way to play. Also your world pvp is not even remotely enjoyable to me me personally. I don’t get joy out of wasting other people’s time. I prefer fighting over things in the world. It’s fun fighting a guy over that herb node, or taking out the horde group at that summoning stone. You take my mob while I’m farming primals? I’m coming for you. Am I going to camp you when you try to leave? No I’ve already won, no need.
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Lets be real here. A very large number of people played classic vanilla because they never finished naxx or got to experience “the hardest non-mythic raid ever” only to be disappointed with the fact that the reason it was so hard was mostly due to crappy internet at the time, or just bad players in general. Those players got their fill of naxx and peaced out when tbc came out.
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It’s not always about camping. It’s just about the dynamic. I’ll explain a scenario.
There was an orc warrior in badlands who always farmed on the eastern side. I would normally farm in the shrubbed area near the main ele farm where he would farm. Sometimes he would go to my spot and we would fight. Sometimes I would his.
This went on for all of classic and we had to have like 60+ kills on each other. He was really good too. The fights were always long and close and it was always exhilarating to be farming and knowing that he was in the area. Sometimes I didn’t want to deal with it. Sometimes I was glad to see him. Either way, it was part of the game for me and when he was ganking other people and they needed help I’d be fast to jump on it. It’s funny seeing him a month later in a different zone and ganking him there too. Just little things like that made classic pvp special and I have a million different stories with a million different people like that and none of them would’ve ever been formed if they could simply fly off or dodge our encounter all together. In badlands I knew that if I got his HP low and he fled west, I could mount up and scour the area west and probably end up finding him.
In TBC, they fly and it’s over.
It’s stupid and I’ll always say that is where WoW went wrong. Seems most of the OG devs agree with me. At least Kevin Jordan and Chris Kaleiki do.
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World PVP is a waste of time … they should have just made all servers PVE… then the imbalance wouldn’t have mattered for 95% of the content
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As someone who has only ever played on PvE servers, I have to ask what different types of wpvp are there, and what type was it that you liked? Just curious.
Because Classic was about recreating the Vanilla experience, and TBCC is about micro-transactions, selling boosts, milking the playerbase…aka treated just like Retail.
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People are talking like tbc is dead even though shatt, SW, and org are all packed on most server. Classic vanilla brought in a lot of eyes initially because colossal hype but it’s not like all those people stayed till naxx, the population is still very strong
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Ya but if you see the population of Classic 1 month in to the population of TBCC at the same period , Classic was so much more . Just the wait times to get into the game bear that out
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Things take longer. 1-60 is more of a slog than 60-70 IMO which kept a lot of people busy with alts. Also it’s much harder to gear in Vanilla—not as many properly itemized options. Most of your gear comes purely from dungeons and raids which takes a lot of time to run AND get the drops you want/need.
Things like Arcane Crystals and Black Lotus were scarce/low drop rate so it kept people farming those or trying to farm gold to be able to purchase them.
People were just spending more time trying to get things done (because of a lack of QOL/streamlining that TBC has and is absent in Vanilla) which kept the population focused and alive.
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The community was well into full toxicity mode by the time TBC Classic hit, & A-Blizzard has pretty much ignored all the issues (or made them worse). A lot of people just decided not to hang around any longer, no matter how much they might have enjoyed either version of the game back during its original run.
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