So you want two separate vulpera versions for the Horde and Alliance?
I am not making a case for what i want
I am simply outlining the case that, yes, multiple factions of Vulpera, could and do exist, and that one of them finding common cause with the alliance is not inconceivable.
There are human pirates too, so humans become neutral next?
I would disagree. The Horde already has a firm sticking point with the Vulpera which im sure youre aware of. For the Alliance you would have to change a group thats antagonistic to the Alliance or create a new one to suit the Alliance.
Its hard to say it makes sense for them to be neutral when you would have to force it to make it happen.
That is a textbook strawman
I am talking specifically about Vulpera.
Itās applying the same logic as you are using. The flaw isnāt with my example, but with yours.
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Maybe you should have thought about all this before you guys went and burned down their homes and made their people blow up. Vulpera will never go Alliance.
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tl;dr im stretching really hard because i want it.
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Yes the flaw is with your example. You are bringing extraneous and irrelevant information to a discussion specficially around vulpera
you are making the assumptioin that
in case x
a=b
therefore,
in casy y,
c=b.
You are asserting that a=c, since as far as you are concerned, a=b=c. However, there has been nothing to suggest that āaā is in any way connected to āc,ā thus negating your premise.
I think I found the problem to both your understandings.
I guess everyone that is saying that Alliance will never get them because they attacked them is conveniently forgetting that we now have human and night elfs fighting for The Horde now literally after they attacked both their homes as well.
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Theyāre furry goblins
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This doesnāt work because the humans and night elves in question are undead. And as we know through other sources of lore such as Before the Storm, the Alliance cannot and will never accept the undead as people among their ranks minus the death knights.
The humans in question all constantly voice wishing they could go back but know they canāt because they arenāt accepted. The Kaldorei have a large question of whether or not theyāre being brainwashed being brought up by the Alliance as well, on these very forums. For the same reason you mention here. The factor of being alive or undead plays a very big role in the acceptance of something into a faction.
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No they are not, there are ashvane NPCs with horde tabards on them. also what does them having being Undead have anything to do with it, do you really think the night elves would join The Horde after what they did on dead or not? Donāt even try to defend Blizards nonsense hereā¦
or are goblins hairless vulpera? Yes, they share the same skeleton, but the two races are distinct.
the popular retort is that Kul tiran were given ānewā rigs, despite aforementioned skepticism, but they were humans nonetheless.
That Blizzard nonsense is exactly the same nonsense that determines what goes where when discussing faction story. Something being undead matters. And Ashvane quite clearly has nothing to do with the Horde in 8.2 considering sheās a raid boss and attacks both Horde and Alliance units.
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Thatās not the point, her people are literally serving The Horde right now, after they attacked kulātiras. You canāt even begin to tell me between that and the events of darkshore that blizzard could not make up a reason for vulpera to be with the alliance as well.
Thereās no reason to. Again, Darkshore people claim up and down was brainwashing the Kaldorei. Human pirates who got bribed with protection have nothing to do with anything.
The Alliance burn the Vulperaās homes, and quite literally explode them after coordinating a terrorist attack on the entirety of them as a people. Thereās no reason for them to join the Alliance. At all.
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I doubt the Vulpera will join the Alliance since they burned their caravans while shouting that they shouldāve kept their noses clean. Even if that is one group, word would travel quickly and other Vulpera would not want any of that mess.
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What do you mean thereās no reason ?! people want it, also the alliance have not really gotten any allied race they want it so far with the exception of maybe dark irons.
At this point Iām just going to be repeating myself with you when I say blizzard could MAKE the reason in lore. it really comes down to player greed only wanting it for their faction.
You said that if the vulpera where part of a different group than the ones in voldun they might join the alliance.
The pirates are part of a different group than the ones the horde are attacking so they might join the horde.
Itās the same argument in both places with equal merit.
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