So much for zero impact.
I donât know when it became reasonable to expect players to spend 3+ hours every single day in ClassicâŚ
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How long do you guys really think Classic was before Burning Crusade? You expect a full expansion long release schedule? Itâd be 6 years til Wrath.
Why do you need to spend 3+ hours everyday in Classic? You donât have to complete the content while itâs the current endgame.
If you want to complete the content while itâs currently the endgame, then you put in the time. Just like you would have had to do back in Vanilla.
Actually, you had to put in way more time back in Vanilla because players werenât as good and werenât walking into MC and blasting through the place in an hour.
Time /played to hit max level.
Divided by 72 days since Classic was released.
Thatâs the expectation some players have for the playerbase saying we should be level 60 by now.
Did you play Vanilla? When did you hit max level?
Everything you said was wrong. People have broke the math down in this thread that you obviously didnât entirely read. Not only that there are plenty of latecomers who didnât start on day one, and players that made the mistake of transferring to low pop servers and then error corrected by rerolling.
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You wanted pvp on your terms on a pvp realm.
Too bad so sad.
Iâm already 60 and ready for phase 2. I didnât make the post for myself specifically in regards to phase 2. Whatâs happening here is some selfish players disagreeing with me because they canât think about other players experience besides themselves and they donât really care about the overall health of the game.
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Not everyone disagreeing with you is selfish. I have more trust in Blizzardâs perspective on this.
I can also see more and more players finished with the content available and playing far less because of it while the players who you represent still have everything ahead of them.
So, tell me whoâs really being selfish here.
Classic will not be dead once the top guilds first clear Naxx. What a ridiculous idea, there will always be players progressing through all levels of content.
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I didnât say everyone disagreeing with me was selfish. I said some of the people disagreeing with me are.
Very few players have finished the content of phase 1. Killing Rag and Ony is not finishing the content. Having a full T1 set or every single piece of gear that is bis before BWL would be finished with content.
No one said the game would die if Naxx the minute Naxx was cleared. You are making straw man arguments. This post is about our concerns with the speed at which Blizzard is releasing content, some transparency on why they are making those decisions, and who they should be catering to when they make them.
If youâve been raiding for at least the last month or so, you should have most of what you want by the release of BWL. Thereâs still plenty of time.
As for the lower level players, they can progress through MC, while other guilds prog through BWL. There is nothing wrong with this. This is how we played through vanilla. I didnât clear MC with my old guild until after AQ and ZG were released and completed by others.
My experience certainly wasnât affected by how far other players had progressed.
How long do you want Phase 3 to take exactly? Should we all earn our MC gear and then just take 6 months off while lower players have their chance that isnât going away regardless?
Iâll point out again that Blizzard has all the data they need to judge when is the best time to release content for the community.
Asmongold has been raiding since week one, bplays more than just about anyone, ninjas himself gear, and just got 8/8 this week and still hasnât gotten everything he wants. Itâs ridiculous to suggest that players should have been raiding for a month and have everything they want.
I do agree with your point that newer characters can get carried to gear letâs hope that happens. With the way the current player base focuses solely on their own needs and not helping others Iâm skeptical. Finding a good guild is paramount.
I donât have a specific time for how long phases should last or I would have said. It is definitely happening faster than it was presented to us which multiple people have expressed in here already. And yes Blizzard does have the access to the data as you say but many have expressed they are making the decisions not on the where the majority of the playerbase is at. We donât know because there is no transparency.
Look man itâs obvious you havenât read the whole post or you wouldnât be rehashing arguments people have already made. Iâm going to bed. If you want to read the whole thing and bring something fresh I will be here in the morning to check the replies. Have a good night.
Q: Any more information on the length/release schedule for Phases
A: Try to keep it a bit flexible. If you were to ask me to ballpark a random number, Iâd say for the first couple: probably around a couple of months.
â Ion Hazzikostas.
Please read my post again, I didnât say that you should have everything you need one month of raiding, I said that you should be well off by the release of BWL which should at the very least be several months away.
Itâs not uncommon for a tank to get 8/8 well before others. Itâs a tanking set after all.
This wasnât a rush it was too late.
Content shouldnât be spread around as much as this isnât the main focus where new expansions over ride your progress.
Besides this doesnât have a major raid in it, and people who donât like to raid need something else to do, so donât get cocky the world isnât revolving around you 2-3 months to prepare and not being 60 wonât prevent you from participating in it.
If enough low levels gang on a 60 the 60 will die and people will be coming to help you if you spread word of being camped during the phase or they should.
Exactly!
10/yada
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You seem to be forgetting that once Vanilla is done theyâll migrate Classic servers to TBC, when thatâs done; to WrathâŚso on and so on.
The fact is: The sooner they release phases, the soon Vanilla-phase will be done, and the next classic expansion released. ((Replace âVanillaâ with any expansion youâre particular fond of.))
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of course, my bad.
a game with no new content ever can only be healthy forever!
⌠why do we even bother arguing with brainwashed zealot.
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How could we forget that which has never been announced or seriously discussed by Blizzard?