Why the nerfs?

Why are you nerfing the crap out of warlocks? You left shadow priest and balance Druid completely untouched. Ele was performing well because of a “bug” with the scarlet enclave two piece so I get it but, god damn guys. This is super frustrating.

They nuked mages a few weeks ago, happy with the buff we are getting now. Maybe theyll test and see with locks now too and adjust down the road.

they revert these mages chances in live servers, mages are doing the double of dmg than other casters.

Warlock is head and shoulders above in aoe.

yeah but 25% nerf its annoying

Rogue tanks also got kneecapped this phase. Scarlet Enclave, between the -20% dodge debuff, the abundance of magical damage and the nerf to Just a Flesh Wound (-30% physical damage to -20% damage reduction), is probably the most actively hostile raid to rogue tanks specifically.

It’s like they forgot what the entire point of Season of Discovery (and the ability for traditionally non-tanking classes to tank) was.

Are you saying they reverted mage changes?

A nerf to aoe shadowbolt that also allows you to retain single target damage on it seems a far cry from “Nerfing the crap out of warlocks”

Looks like they want to target mass aoe right now, and shadow priest does good aoe but not necessarily insane aoe so that would explain why they weren’t touched.

How is anything other than the dodge debuff specifically hostile to rogues? The other effects also hurt paladins and warriors too.

The dodge debuff is there to prevent unhittable rogue tank builds. Let’s not act like being completely immune to physical attacks as a boss tank is remotely acceptable.

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It’s becoming actually tuned for 20. Calm down and accept it.

But they left boomkin & spriest alone when they have no target cap? I would agree if they actually targeted other classes aoe but they targeted the one class with a target cap lol

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Ya it’s kind of ridiculous.

yes, devs stupidly revert the evocation and other stuff nerfs with the hotfix.

mages were buffed like 70% more damage, and anyway without evocation just with SE tier now are siming 2k above other casters.

Boomkin aoe is dependent on a cooldown now that we’re moving away from Naxx.

Both have a target cap, just not a hard cap. Damage done gets reduced beyond a certain number of targets. Same for mage aoe. And spriest aoe is good, not overwhelming. Clearly they felt there was an issue with the aoe shadowbolt rune.

if you go look at council logs, spriests are slightly behind warlocks pre-nerf. But spriests dont use AOE runes obv.

Also I think locks give up haunt when going volley, which is a non-trival single target damage loss, for aoe shadowbolt. But still, locks will be fine.

No idea how they are going to “correct” spriest cleave capability without nerfing single target. They’d have to remove their ability to snapshot and refresh dots so easily (instant mindspike from that set is part of it).

The OP meant class nerfs not content nerfs.

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The short answer would be the devs saw the cleave sim and went based off that.

I don’t think that spriests on council are a problem, you also can’t hit spriest damage on council without hurting them on single target, it’s just where they are supposed to be strong traditionally.

Yea, my main point was that people are acting like this is the end of the world for locks when it’s a very minor overall change to be honest.

pally got a 60% nerf on 1 ability let alone 3 other nerfs welcome to the club 25% nerf only?

OMG! how do you know that warlocks are very interested about what happened with your dull class? please post it in every single thread of the forums.