Well this leads us back to our never ending conflict. I believe my OP is filled with reasonable predictions but you think otherwise.
Again makes 0 sense, demand isnt as high as supply, so once again, why do they need to buy the boost?
Right which is why at this point all we can do is wait and see, however the burden of proof remains on the boosts bad crowd to actually identify a specific issues caused by boosts.
because, as you said, they still want to farm gold and I assume they want to do so as efficiently as possible, so they would naturally begin to operate multiple accounts simultaneously and therefore they would use a boost to get the new accounts up to speed in the most time efficient way possible assuming that the boost costs less than the value of the amount of gold they could have made in the time it would take them to level instead.
A fact can be about something that has yet to occur. I don’t have to shoot you in the brain for you to KNOW it will at the very least seriously physically harm you and more likely kill you but you wouldn’t want me to do it just to find out if it actually would because once it’s done, and the negative consequence happens, it can’t be reversed.
Its not efficient if its spending money VS not spending money…
Because once again they have no rush, they have more than enough in their stock to easily keep up with the demand.
You got to be trolling. You can’t be…
Imagine you own a store selling widgets. Your shelves are full, your stock room is over capacity, and you get a new shipment via cargo ship every month. Now a new carrier comes along offering air cargo, which is 10x as fast, but 10x more expensive. Why would you ship in widgets via air?
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But if the boost costs less then the gold they make from boosting then it’s not spending money. Once they sell that stock, they’ve only made money. It’s only a loss in the short term, regardless of demand. It would only be if you had reasons to believe that the demand would cease entirely in the near future that you wouldn’t want to spend money in the short term.
because if you sell widgets, you don’t farm them yourself in time or turn yourself into a robot that farms them for you whilst your human brain parts from your body and does over things in the real real world.
Correct, a fact is that boosts will exist. A speculation is what impact that will have.
And at this point since boosts are happening we’ll be able to observe how it plays out and what impact they actually have will be become fact. At which point one of us will be wrong.
Wrong but i guess you wont get it becuase you just refuse to accept it.
See you in TBC on my boosted toon.
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No it doesn’t, it actually hurts bots because one of the main reasons people buy gold is to buy boosts from mages, mages who are not always players, aka bots.
On top of that the bots won’t buy the boosts themselves because of a few reasons.
- They already generate more gold than they can sell (over a billion gold is for sale between all the classic realms)
- They won’t buy it with retail wow tokens because it devalues their retail gold they sell by giving blizzards tokens a higher sell rate and lowering their retail gold store by a noticeable amount, with no real value added to profits in terms of classic gold selling because again, they already have more gold than they can sell and the cost of the boost would generate them more gold by buying more accounts instead by the 3rd week. And it takes months on averages for a bot account to be banned. On top of that by having more accounts it reduces the risk of a full ban of all bots of a company with the ban waves.
Bots will not use the boosts. It makes no sense in terms of cost, profit, supply, demand, exc.
This also isn’t true, new players can still leveling a character, they can choose to buy a boost (which would be cheaper than buying gold to pay mages for a boost, which supports the bots doing it that way, what a shocker that this change hurts gold sellers!), and they can get their friends involved. I plan on leveling 1-58 in the prepatch because some of my RL friends are coming back for classic and one of them wants to be a BE paladin, which can’t be boosted, so we will level.
This new meta your talking about was in effect well before the boost was announced. Many people already leveled multiple characters for profession alts, paladins for aoe farming, rogues/druids for node farming inside instances and outside in the world, exc. This “meta” has been in effect for YEARS on private servers and the boost actually does nothing to change it.
I wasn’t aware that the boost gave the new toon Maxx gear, thousands of gold, mountains of stocked consumables, mats, exc that people have stockpiled through classic to be ready for tbc classic? Oh wait it doesn’t. It gives the new character NOTHING of noteworthy achievement in tbc classic, not even professions being ready for outlands…
Recruit a friend was FAR more ‘abusable’ (in the sense of what your complaining about) than the 1 boost per account. And it was in tbc. So, your wrong here as well.
This is outright wrong in the sense that player driven dungeon boosts harm the game FARM more. It encourages buying gold which encourages botting, which damages the economy far more than the “free” gold (cost of spells, mount, starting gold, exc) that the boosted character gets from blizzards boost. Blizzard boost is far healthier for the game than dungeon boosting.
Have you raided at all in classic? Half the raid for the average 40 man raids are clueless dead weight, the boosts don’t change this, they would be clueless at launch of tbc classic anyway. On top of that anyone that wants to learn their new chosen class has had plenty of time to research it with the guides that are out there. The boosts don’t effect players being clueless. Their own choices to not learn do that as they have plenty of sources and time to do so before the portal opens.
There doesn’t need to be a middle ground, boosts do nome of the negative things you are complaining about, they actually have beneficial effects that are the opposite of your complaints on some areas, like removing some of the desire to buy gold from bots for level boosting as one example listed above.
And lastly the video you linked is an OPINION based video. Uts clear he did basically no real research into the topic he made that video on.
Now lastly do I like the idea of boosts in tbc classic? Not really, but it’s not because of some perceived falling sky of how it hurts the game (it doesn’t, it actually helps it vs bots by reducing one of the reasons people buy gold, boosting character levels) but I’m not so emotionally driven to ignore FACTS. But at the same time, I’m not going to tell someone else how they should play the game if it doesn’t really effect me, because even though I walked up hill both ways in the snow in classic, that doesn’t mean I want others who don’t want to do that have to for tbc classic. I enjoy leveling the 1-60 (depending on the class I play) but I know not everyone likes to level, it’s why botters make so much money off the mage boost meta, and some (not all) of those boosting mages are botters just money laundering their gold, money londering gold is part of why gdkp became a thing as well, but that’s a story for another time.
But if I’m right, it cannot be reversed. Therefore, I’m arguing it’s not worth the risk.
nice bait
@Redheadchild, I will reply to that mammoth of a reply when I next have chance because it’s 2:07 AM where I live and I’m nackered. Good night. And don’t dare say I’m chickening out, never to reply because someone said this to me before and lived to regret it.
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What? I still pay for the widgets, they’re not free. Why would I special order widgets for 10x the shipping cost, when I am overstocked on widgets?
They can simply disable the boost if it becomes an issue.
So let’s set a few facts out first.
Bots have more gold than they can currently sell.
Bots currently generate more gold than they can sell without boosts
So now that we have some facts in place let’s start the speculation. What reason do bots have to keep botting?
There is 2 reasons I can think of right now
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They will Adventureland run through their supply of gold to sell if they stop botting, so they keep botting increasing their supply further as it outpaces demand.
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If a ban wave happens it keeps them able to sell gold as they put their bots back in place without having to incurr additional costs (like boosts) because they have the supply to not need the bots operating immediately, reducing their overhead cost after a ban wave by not having to spend money on boosts or gold on boosts if their mages got banned as well.
Bots have no reason to buy boosts. The gold they have for sale has already been laundered through mage boost or gdkp in many cases and is on their “clean” accounts. They have far more supply than demand, and it makes more gold to buy more accounts instead of boosts by the 3rd week of the accounts operating with far less risk of a full bot army ban per ban wave due to the number of sheer accounts.
So, they have no immediate need to generate gold, it’s more cost efficient to have more accounts instead of boosting, it’s safer for their investment to have more accounts instead of boosting, and with them already able to outpace supply vs demands without boosting by a large margin, so tell me. Why would bots use boosts?
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I love how people are all of a sudden bot scientists and know exactly what bots are going to do, what they are worth and etc. They obviously can pay for multiple accounts, how easy would it be for them to buy a boost and get on their mount and bot to paradise. SUPER EASY. If anything, and the game is like classic vanilla, they will reign unpunished.
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it’s common freaking sense, not even business 101 level.
Business 101? More like chinese bot theory
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hahaha “The fabric of the game is being damage! Quick lets disable the boost and stop making money!”
Do you also believe in Santa and the Easter bunny?
yes, I forgot to take chinese wushu mysticism into account when I made my business analysis
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/shrug they’re as real as all the doom and gloom people are pretending will happen because of boosts.