Why Sylvanas has some valid points

If you think about it, the world of Azeroth is truly a prison and I will explain why.

See, if every soul ends up in the Shadowlands, and gets reborn, its a simple roll of the dice that sooner or later you are going to reincarnate as the next Arthas or Garrosh or Deathwing, so eventually you are going to end up in the Maw anyway. That’s the truth of it, unless you are lucky enough to end up in Bastion. The truth is, that its a roll of the dice whether you are going to be born into a good life of luxury and be a good person or whether you are going to be born into a toxic environment that turns you psycho, that’s the reality of the situation.

So I think the best thing to do is bust up the current system of death and forget about ‘balance’ and other rubbish and come up with a better one.

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Some of the old musicians from the 60s are often deemed as geniuses and savants by a lot of people who were young then.
I worked for a guy who told me how his favorite singer from the 60s and 70’s was brilliant. So much meaning in his lyrics.
I didnt tell the guy that Id already read an interview with this particular singer and he said there pretty much wasnt a lot of meaning in his lyrics. He was stoned much of the time he was writing them.

Blizzard is my old boss in this story. They seriously seem to see something in their storylines that is amazing and deep.
And all the while the characters in their stories are the doped singer who is admitting that, nah…there aint a whole not of nothing going on with these lyrics.

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I admit I find the choices between an eternity of ‘service’, an unending cycle of reincarnation, eternal war and strife, or eternal penance to be not that appealing. And those are the good afterlives, not even counting that you might end up sent to the Maw. Add to that the fact that the choice isn’t even yours but arbitrarily assigned to you by some faceless Arbitor you’ve never heard of, and I can’t say it sounds like a great system they have in the Shadowlands.

If Sylvanas is working for what amounts to the devil and rebelling against what equates to god, in this instance I think I’d rather rule in hell than serve in heaven as well.

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I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

But Frankenfiend makes some valid points.

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Seen the exact same thing. For some reason, people like to put other people up on a pedestal, even when its not warranted.

People see what they want to see.

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Reminds me of 10th grade English class, when the teacher is having us read the Grapes of Wrath and insisting that every other line is just layered with allegory and symbolism.

No Janet, he’s talking about a rock. It is literally just a rock. There is nothing interesting about a rock.

Sylvanas is the rock.

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I am just going to dismiss the fact that you see Sylvanas as just a rock without depth as toxic masculinity and patriarchy talking.

To me she’s a very deep individual because the reality is, we don’t know what her end-game is. The mere fact that we are guessing and have to ask means that she’s a very complex character.

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Sylvanas is feeding on the souls sent to the maw.

edit: it’s not revealed why-- azerite could be blamed. :thinking:

where in any of the lore does it say souls are getting reincarnated? did i miss something?

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At Blizzcon they said if you end up in a place like Ardenwald for example going to Shadowlands is not a one way trip didn’t they

i assumed that’s because of ardenwalds clear connection to the dream and that its filled with most fay and formerly immortal night elves . it also seem that you dont have to die to go there specifically.

Wild Gods can go to Ardenweald to recover from death. Cenarius apparently did so between WC3 and Cata, and they said that some dead loa like Hir’eek and Shadra will show up while recovering.

Unless you want to count spirits briefly appearing on Azeroth to commune with the living, it’s a one-way trip for anything that isn’t specifically intended to transcend death.

You keep making these Sylvanas justification posts but reality is that you can’t justify burning thousands of innocents alive and knowingly dooming them to eternal torment. There’s no coming back from that and I hope we will have her pay for these unthinkable things she did.

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Night elves? Innocent?

I must have missed something.

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Oh now we’re throwing that card so explain me how are night elf civilians to blame for Azsharas actions thousands of years ago? They aren’t at all. They were all minding their own business until the Horde decided to send them to hell for all eternity as a “Thank you” after the night elves gave them Azshara after MoP. You are basically saying that they all deserved to be burned alive and sent to hell for all eternity because some elf did something bad once.

No wonder you are defending Sylvanas.

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That is a very bad novel to claim isn’t deep.

In real life just because it wasn’t our generation that kicked the indigenous populations out of our countries, doesn’t mean we should take zero responsibility for the sins of our ancestors. Or else we are doomed to repeat them.

And the people whose ancestors came over well afterwards? What about people whose ancestors didn’t participate?

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So we should just go rampage and start killing each other for things other people did in the past? Nice mindset.

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I don’t think Blizzard believes this at all. I think you’re projecting.

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