Can anyone give me a good reason why the Mawsworn haven’t just continued abducting leaders from Azeroth? I mean aside from the Hailer finding his ‘weapon’ in Anduin, couldn’t the Mawsworn just keep kidnapping people from Azeroth until things are so badly destabilized at home that we have to go back to the living world and take care of that? Or even if we stayed in the Shadowlands, wouldn’t the Maw Walker be too distracted trying to rescue Azeroth’s leaders to really bother with interfering in the Jailers real plans anymore?
I mean, what are the Mawsworn doing otherwise aside from occasionally picking up heroes in the Maw and immediately getting killed for their trouble?
I assume it’s because the jailer hasn’t told them to go get more leaders.
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It’s the typical WoW story. Where a carefully planned invasion of Azeroth years in the making is broken in a prepatch event.
So thoroughly that Azeroth’s inexhaustible supply of death proof murder hobos are now rampaging through the invaders turf. Rapidly learning how to use the local resources for their own ends and murdering every lieutenant the big bad has because that’s how they update their wardrobes.
If anything you’d think Azeroth would be regarded as a realm full of dangerous mute psychotics to be avoided at all costs at this point.
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Imagine every Big Bad and their armies in the universe going Lets invade Azeroth! They’re the last planet standing and that one Void Lord is in the corner crying going *You weren’t there, when the murder hobos rampaged through our forces and than decided to go beat up on death itself. Just leave them alone before they come for me
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With the way the jailer is being built up its clear he just considers us and the affairs of mortal azeroth so far beneath his notice(while we rampage through his backyard and decimate his forces). His abductions served their purpose. Its a shame he didn’t actually kill off Baine Foulhoof.
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I just don’t even understand why the Jailer has the Mawsworn at all anymore. They are the only part of his forces that can come and go as they please between the Maw, the rest of the Shadowlands, and the mortal realm and so far all he has used them for was to abduct the usual damsels in distress who need saving and to pull KT’s bacon out of the fire.
It’s just poor resource management.
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Probably because it was more about finding a new weapon for the Jailor, and Anduin has been chosen as that weapon.
Which explains why he let us get Jaina, Thrall, and Baine all back so easily, and why Thrall felt they were being “tested” when he was in the Maw initially.
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The tactical move you’ve outlined doesn’t make any sense. There is no amount of “destabilization” that would require us to go back and deal with it. We’re not cops, putting down civil unrest isn’t our job - and in any case, it would be immediately clear that stopping the Jailor is the only way to actually resolve the problem of the abductions, so… why wouldn’t we just keep gunning for him?
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I actually covered that if you read the whole initial post. The idea would be even if we didn’t go back to help stabilize Azeroth that we’d be too busy rescuing leaders to actually get in the way of the Jailer’s real plans.
Have you TRIED crossing the veil? The border tax is absurd. What? Do you think Torghast is MADE of Stygia? The Jailer can’t reasonably afford to make so many trips after his Mawsworn had their Kyrian Visas revoked.
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There isn’t likely to be much point to destabilizing Azeroth at this point. If/when the Jailer’s plans succeed, Azeroth will fall anyways. Kidnapping more leaders to throw the planet into chaos is not the best use of Zovaal’s resources right now. The only threat Azeroth could pose him is already in the Shadowlands, after all.
As for kidnapping leaders so we have more people to rescue, that’s not really likely to slow us down much either. We’re addressing the anima drought just fine while rescuing leaders as is.
How exactly are we doing that? Last I checked all souls still flow into the Maw. The drought hasn’t stopped.
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Sorry all, but I am going to pause for a moment and point out that Benedikt just gave the best character description for me ever:
Paraphrasing, I am a “death-proof mute psychotic murder hobo who updates my wardrobe with trophies from my kills”
I’ve never felt so proud.
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isnt it because we’re screwing their plans? thats my impression of whatever we’re doing on the maw.
I dunno, the Mawsworn just seem to be hanging out and occasionally tormenting souls. It doesn’t seem like they are super involved in any plans we happen to be thwarting aside from occasionally swooping down to say hi when we get our Eye of The Jailer rebuff high enougjh.
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I did read it, and didn’t consider that part worthwhile because it doesn’t refute my final point: at the end of the day, all of the problems you’re suggesting the Jailor should cause are best solved by killing him.
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He’s doing more prepping for something than being on the offensive. We’ll possibly see whatever his real plans are.
I don’t think killing the Jailer would magically rescue everyone from Torghast. Not unless the Maw stops being a prison for the worst souls in the universe, which seems unlikely as they’d still need somewhere to go.
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Only reason the prison existed in the first place was because of Zovaal though.
