It’s as close to equal opportunity as you can get - its never a case of one team just having the more experienced team mates.
It forces you to adapt to:
-multiple classes
-multiple compositions
-individual playstyles
It requires more “skill” than one-trick ponies that run one comp to high ratings in 3v3
Participation seems to indicate the playerbase sees it similarly
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"individual playstles’
you mean the braindead dps who go run and chase behind pillars with no trinkets and no defensives? yea, that’s why i don’t que as a healer.
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Healers used to be nice people. They were the caring supportive friend in the group that just wanted everyone else to have fun and succeed.
Now they’re all mean, grouchy, short tempered, generally unpleasant, and the very first person to tell everyone else how bad they are, how they screwed up, and how perfectly they played but even they couldn’t carry someone that bad.
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It sure is fun adapting to dh, Dk, warrior, spriest and demo lock every game.
I’d rather adapt to a metal railroad spike to my skull.
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Preach, beastlyjim, preach!
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playing improperly isn’t skill
there is no adaptation to your team running across the map
there is no adaptation to your team ensuring there is always a pillar between them and their healer
there is no adaptation to your team never using cds until 1hp, so its always an overlap or horrifically-early healer-commit
there is no adaptation to players that just don’t know how to do damage or play the game , even when you spell it out for them
solo shuffle doesn’t take skill because even at the highest level they’re making mistakes you’d normally find in a 1300 lobby.
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I kind of like the various comps that most players wouldn’t try to play.
As important as it is to know your class in PvP, it’s equally as important to understand what’s in your opponents tool kit. I think this method provides skirmish availability with the ability to weekly progress.
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It’s a good mode with a good idea behind it, but there are a few classes vastly out performing others. I know its spec based rating, but regardless, things need to be tuned and adjusted or we won’t have any participation in this mode soon.
Healers already said I’m good.
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What
Early committing is, exactly, an adaptation
RSS is so much harder to win than normal rated arena. Even 3k rated players are getting stuck at 1500 because they dont have people to carry them, or crutches like RMP to cheat their way to gladiator.
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early commiting is how you lose games against competent players
pre-ing is not the same as early commit , if that’s the confusion
its not an adaptation its a throw
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No confusion,I just disagree with you
Rss isn’t the same game as 3s and the inefficiency that would constitute a throw by coordinated standards is an acceptable trade-off in uncoordinated shuffles when it prevents the greater error of an overlap
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not until they address rating inflation in this bracket, its not. also there are 100s of dhs 2400+ in shuffle but hardstuck 1900 in rated 3s, so actually its not.
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lmfao no it doesnt ur just conflating these two things because it suits your narrative
what it proves is that it is easier to press a button and end up in an arena as opposed to make friends to press the button together at the same time
which we already know
but thanks for discounting your entire post with this blatant lie u felt the need to tack on
but i guess since this is your stance let’s just take it to its logical conclusion as well
it takes more skill to do LFR than clear mythic because
dumbass
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My issue with it is it heavily favors selfish classes that don’t bring team utility but just high damage instant CC to setup for themselves and good personals
Mage enhance windwalker ret (to an extent) ect just left out of the meta.
Removing coordination removes a pretty large layer of depth to the “skillful play” with wow arena.
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Yeap… and you have players like Lameo above hitting down on players at 1300… Like has that Mother lover ever gone and looked at the leaderboards?
for some classes/specs having a 1300 rating puts you in the top 200. That is probably top .5% of the class/spec. And for some, it means you are complete trash.
Blizzard making a ladder pro spec is their confession that this game is not balanced. How can regular arenas ever be? Some classes are just bad.
It’s nothing blizzard did…you aren’t reading.
Shuffle promotes selfish uncoordinated play.
Some specs are literally designed for this.
Others need to work with their partners to really shine.
A perfect example being mage.
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Is this not literally a measure of skill? Being higher experience and better than the enemy team? Lmfao?