destroys the entirety of Lordaeron and its defenders without a second thought
Hey you can surrender now. Like ok dude, so gracious of you.
So no proof to back up the claim. When in the game story say otherwise. When cannot prove it call me a fanboy. Oh my to insult someone just shows you not worth the trouble.
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Yeah, I donât see anything like that in the video. You may want to get another one.
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not now it about church time. Beside if you say wrong it own you. I am not going to trouble. If say wrong you ahve to prove I am wrong. Still I try latter.
Itâs not the âdyingâ part that is so worrisome: weâre ALL fighters here, of one kind or another. somewhere, is the battleground that will be our last.
Itâs the UNdeath that she wants and which we rail against.
That, and sheâs an opportunistic coward.
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Sheâs a mastermind manipulator, she knows how to make you think otherwise and thenâŚâpoofâ betrayal. Youâll see last patch when Iâm right lol. We all know she will be a raid boss, just accept it. Jaina->Azshara->Sylvannas
read careful, It was right there and That point I seen it
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Applause Thank you.
First time, in a long time, that I have seen a leveled headed player. Who knows the situation. ![:heart_eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/heart_eyes.png?v=6" ":heart_eyes:")
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WHO destroyed Lorderon? And when?
Seriously need to review that little scenario, friend Troll.
Actually, I will:
- Lilâ Orphan Andy comes into throne room; offers Queen Roadkill her chance to stand down.
- Banshee Babe makes her escape, then blows the city.
for the record, the Alliance is NOT the one who uses poison gas.
#ShouldersOFF4Saurfang.
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I donât think thereâs anything at Hot Topic that would fit Baine
And will change again, im not sure how you think we will play the red scourge forever
thats not make any sense, war effort made then win money, thats why the blackfuse stick with him, money.
thats another scenario, we are talking about Saurfang trying to die fighting the alliance leaders, and he did try.
just like now the alliance is wining in every front, and by the words of her toy, victory is in their grasp?
win? hilarious
i donât want to hear nothing about someone who defend a elf who die with a simple bullet in the head.
ironic how they have more honor than the formol queen.
Times change, and will change again, i cannot wait when they kerrigan her and you guys will have to suck it how she was bad all along and need a redemption arc.
I did and gave to the teacher at church. She says it makes no sense to her either. She told me she could adjust it to make it easy for me to understand. i get tomorrow.
Here the âgrand schemeâ of Sylvanas and Saurfang (and may be Baine)
First they let Saurfang fake his defection and attempt to appeal to Aduinâs weakness - his naive sense of honor. This is the 34th (inflicting injures on oneself to gain enemyâs trust) in Sun Tzuâs 36 stratagems from Art of War.
Then they borrow the Zandalari to weaken the Alliance (Kill with a borrowed knife - at least they took down Gelbin, one of the top Alliance figures). Sylvanas even go as far as sacrificing King Rastakhan so that they can gain a new ally - the weaken Zandalari empire (Sacrifice the short-termed goal to achieve a long-termed one).
Then Sylvanas have Baine release Derek Proudmoore (after conditioning him and turning him to a walking corpse bomb). She imprisons Baine to make it look more convincing (again âinflicting injuries upon oneselfâŚâ).
Now she will use âempty fort strategyâ to let the Alliance attack and corner her - even dethrone her may be. Then this is the moment where the Alliance leaders will argue about whether to spare the Horde or not. This will create conflict between Anduin and his advisors - Genn, Jaina, and Tyrande. This is the point where the Alliance will be most vulnerable - she then activated the timed bomb Derek and have Saurfang and Baine attack the leadership of the Alliance (to âcut off the head of the snakeâ). So thatâs gonna weaken the Alliance vastly.
Everything is going according to plan then the Old God and Queen Azshara attack. So now Valen will have to swoop in and save the Alliance with his shiny spaceship. And now the two factions will have a ceasefire to deal with fish people.
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well, I have to say that at least make this expansion interesting.
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I mean there wasnât much for her to blow up after jaina uses her flying ship (could have used that in so many other scenarios but she only uses it here 
), the bombardment of the alliance war machines and the alliance forces that swarmed into the city killing everything except Saurfang. (Donât get me wrong Iâm with Saurfang until the end, him and zappy boi).
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Good points, all of them.
Add to the fact that the walls and other defenses have obviously never been upgraded; nor did she seem to have any real plan for defense. Sylvanas KNEW theyâd be coming so what does she do? Herself and a few Dark rangers on the parapets, some troops out frontâŚand thatâs it?
Where were OUR engineers, with countermeasures and our own tech? The Goblin devices would have been deadly!
And the Blood Elves; why were we absent? A veritable shower of arrows and storm of magicks, such as the Alliance could only dream of! I mean, itâs almost likeâŚlikeâŚ
She doesnât trust us.
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she never will.
Her people only prosper if people (humansâŚnow elves) die. Why she is not a good leader imo. All the other horde races make new members naturally. They could find a solution to the war, walk away and their races grow and prosper. the forsaken donât.
She is by default wanting to see war 24/7 to make sure the forsaken maintain if not grow. She will never want peace of any kind.
In some magical world where we all just get alongâŚshe loses. No dead humans/elves from warfare to raise up. As her only means would be to kidnapping these people or raiding graveyards
And at that point even orcs would be going wtfâŚwe donât war no more so now you just steal people to kill them or rob graves to turn? that is some BS girlfriend and we wonât have your back.
I agree with you almost entirely, exceptâŚ
She is a great leader for the forsaken, or for the scourge, not so much for the heart of the horde.
That is a good point, Iâll buy it for a dollar lol.
Eh⌠thatâs not a problem. People die all the time. Hell, take out the Horde and Alliance conflict and theyâd still be dying at a wholly unrealistic rate due to there being a new apocalypse every twelve months. You donât even need that - this is a pre-industrial era society - disease (and not even the demonic bio-terrorism type) can take you down at any time. The Horde War Campaign explicitly highlights this in one of the characters you ârecruitâ.
If the Forsaken want death to improve their numbers then they can have it without needing to force the issue.
The problem with the Forsaken is that⌠Sylvanas has fostered and cultivated a society and culture of omnicidal cannibals with a perpetual victim complex. âKill all livingâ is a fine campaign slogan when your entire purpose is revenge against one undead demi-god, but Arthasâ old news, and now? âŚ
Sylvanas was never interested in ecking out a place or future for the Undead of Lordaeron - she only wanted revenge. Thatâs the entire foundation their society and civilization is predicated on.
Yes. Being undead does generally mess with your head, yes it distorts your perspective and personality, yes it comes with awful instincts like cannibalism, nihilism, and an aversion to life but⌠there have been numerous examples of Undead whoâve overcome this, either through sheer effort or support.
No, the problem isnât the Undead - the problem is the Forsaken, and what Sylvanas has made of them.