I will only consider this argument as valid when trinkets provides at least 1 second CC immunity after use so i could actually disarm them on shadow dance.
Even in this situation the second GO would be enough.
At least one class should counter rogues efficiently, by efficiently i really mean EFFICIENTLY.
InterestingIf so that would be sooner than the also announced notes, which wouldnât surprise me with how they release charges earlier or later without notice.
Trinket and use quicker.
Themselves.
Their teammates.
Better rogues.
True and real
Trinket isnât on the GCD so you have no reason to need the cc immunity when you can press them both at the same time
Bleeds should reveal rogues just as hunters mark does.
What do you mean lol we canât stay stealth with bleeds unless we have a shield on us or cloak/racial it off
Do you mean the times that bleed takes rogues out of stealth after 4 seconds when rogue is already on the other side of the map behind the pillar drinking?
dont just disarm dance, Disarm shadow blades. thats when you die
Thatâs because of the vanish absorb if we take the talent, which im not sure a lot of rogues do these days. Which would be the same if we got a shield and got out of combat and just stealthed to run away.
Every melee.
Overpower.
Every class.
So far war has the only counter to any of the things you mentioned.
Shadow blades is really only scary when Dance is also up. It really doesnt help much damage outside of having Dance up.
Dance/blades then something is bound to die if you cant stop them or get away or get some big heals/defensives up.
thats what im saying, not just dance. but ive never seen a rogue use blades without dance. i meant the 2 of them together.
so you are implying disarmed retribution or survival hunter suffers the same impact as an disarmed warrior
do the devs have the same cognitive capacity as this one? maybe it would be the answer to why to this day rogues arenât countered by anything
And NOW itâs a real broxikor thread
Delete rogues and DH from pvp and it would be a better place
Rogues have no counter really, it isnât arms war that is for sure
people who have told me to use Piercing Howl to get rogues out of vanish lead me astray, ive tried it countless times and it doesnt work, I hit that move RIGHT as they vanish - no work. Right AFTER they vanish - no work. You canât get a rogue out of stealth if they dont want to. Vanish in and of itself is too strong, combine it with cloak and youre dead in the water.
Played against rogue/rogue in 2s and it was just 15 minutes of them opening, failing, vanishing and being stealth until all cds reset and health was healed. Used eyes, they are worthless, there are no negatives to being a rogue. Youre just a better arms war.
You got trolled yeah, vanish is unbreakable and includes a freedom for three seconds or so. I donât think howl even breaks regular stealth though
Exactly, rogues are even better than warriors in cleave which is delusional
Probably another season of being a dollar store Rogue but we press on against all odds.
Iâm implying that low IQs are numerous now a days.